China Unknown Chinese warlord medal

[Sampo]

Hello,

Here 1926?? warlord medal. It is enamelled, not painted. And the bal is decently mounted, as is the ring. The ring is welded and therefore has no opening.

Does anyone have an idea on this one? Were was it given for, and is it a common one?

Best

Sampo

[JapanX]

Does anyone have an idea on this one?

This one looks not very promising.

Please show the reverse.

Cheers,

Nick

[Sampo]

Hi Nick,

Yes I see what you mean. I will post the reverse this evening. Why does it no look very promising? I have seen worse copies of this order, I can post a picture of them too, for comparison.

Cheers

Cyril

[paul wood]

Definitely has a Chinese Cottage Industry Special look about it, look forward to seeing the reverse.

Paul

[Sampo]

Hi Everyone,

Just for comparison, here some pictures of the same medal, but painted and not enamelled. The knob is placed different too, there is no welded ring, and the rays of the star look different.

Maybe this will help a bit.

Cheers

Sampo

[JapanX]

Well, these are fakes.

Probably these fantasy fakes try to mimic this original

[JapanX]

or these

[JapanX]

This thread

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/55110-hot-news-from-manufacturers-of-fakes/

demonstrates another fake from the very same "workshop".

[Sampo]

Hi Nick,

I do was aware of the very Nice Chinese medals you have shown. The reason I had some doubts was a lot in an auction a while ago.

Maybe this will add something to the story.

Cheers

Cyril

[JapanX]

Yep, looks like this auction was selling same piece ;)

[paul wood]

Yes I know an auction house somewhere between France and Austria which has been known to have the odd piece from this stable. Maybe when my India collection is complete I will start collecting Chinese warlord fakes. I could soon fill my cabinet with may hundreds of different varieties and they would be damn sight cheaper than my present collecting habits.

Paul

[Sampo]

Hi Gents,

Here the back side of the medal.

[JapanX]

Thanks Cyril!

Both pieces (yours and one in post #9) look like 100% fakes to me.

Regards,

Nick

[Sampo]

Hi Nick,

Thank you very much for your expertise, on the medal! I guess this one is dust bin material!

Cheers

Cyril