The Prussian Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hello! I´ve just recieved this wonderful photo!!!!!!!! The card ist stamped with an atelier from Darmstadt (Hesse). Si I assume, the man on the left is from the Leibgarde-Inf.Rgt.115 Both are named. Left Norbert Klein, right Theo Klein. Unfortunately I couldn´t find any infos about them. The patch seems to be a Handgranatenwerfer-Abzeichen. (Hand-grenade-thrower) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 That is super intersting!! I have never seen that before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I am guessing they are supposed to be handgrenades that have exploded. One cannot say it is a very succesful design.... but probably one of those cases where a design on paper looks very different to the finished result. When I was in Bosnia a guy did a design for the Battalion commemorative badge.. looked fine on paper, when the badges arrived you needed a bit of imagination to see what they were ;-) Still, very nice :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Sure it isn't for qualified vegetable growers ?? Radishes go well with beer in the Munich neck-of-the-woods. Edited December 20, 2014 by Robin Lumsden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Some friends i our Feldgrau-Forum thought, it could be a painter with crossed paintbrushes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Painters ? Priceless !! Based on these (and other) photos of artillery/grenadier specialist badges, an exploding stick-grenade seems a reasonable proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Of course it is. That´s my opinion too. No-one would wear a patch for beeing a painter or something... Thanks for the examples! Edited December 21, 2014 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Always liked this Sluyterman illustration ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 20-odd years later ....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Could be father and son .......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Could be a Trench Flapper soldiers that cleaned dugouts/trenches of gas, don't get the grenade thing they look like brooms, I used to own an original specialist grenade sleeve patch sold it to GWM. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hello Eric! I´m not sure... Would they really have created a patch with crossed brooms??? For what? Example. A company or platoon leader was killed. Another one, maybe from another unit took command. He didn´t know the soldiers, so he could recognize a grenade-thrower by his patch. In action it could be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 They don't look like grenades and on a white field I dunno, and I've been reading (which is dangerous lol!). Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As I said before.... things dont have to look like what they are meant to be... The blue UN Kevlar helmet on the badge we got in Sarjevo looks like a Blue Lava pancake... you could run a competiton guessing what it is... but in the original design on paper, you could seee right away. I dont think they would have introduced arm badges for painters, gas plapers or paddle boar oar carriers,.... The German army seems to have been pretty strict along those lines.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) It mattered more in those days Chris your more educated. a spade looked like a spade etc. Eric Edited December 22, 2014 by Hoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Grenade throwing instructor? Broom sweeping instructor? Bloody nice and unusual picture anyway. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 They look like tulips to me. He must be the company gardener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I think the only way to approach this is to ask "what could they be, irrespective of how ambiguous they look" Who other than assault units wore unofficial arm badges? Some of the ones we have seen are really strange .... Would any other kinds of unit/Speciality have dared to put up croosed flowers, brushes, brooms, whatevers on an unofficial arm badge? Would a CO have approved anything for his men that was less than martial? Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 Hi Chip! In germany ist´s called "Der Neid der Besitzlosen" ( The envy of the unpropertied) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 I think the only way to approach this is to ask "what could they be, irrespective of how ambiguous they look" Who other than assault units wore unofficial arm badges? Some of the ones we have seen are really strange .... Would any other kinds of unit/Speciality have dared to put up croosed flowers, brushes, brooms, whatevers on an unofficial arm badge? Would a CO have approved anything for his men that was less than martial? Best Chris Your questions are absolutely right, Dear Chris! Another indicator are the removed shoulder-straps. Normally one did that way as a soldier in the first line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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