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    Unknown middle-eastern or arabo-african(?) decorations


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    My friend says the motto is "Salvation is in Truth" or "Salvation through Truth." He also says the last letter of the word Salvation is written in a letter that indicates Ottoman Turkish, Farsi or some none Arabic speaker origin.

    Posted

    Gentlemen,

    I would suggest that the two orders with crescent suspensions are the Ottoman (or Egyptian) Orders of the Mejidie and Osmanie. The orders with crown suspensions are both probably European and the bottom left is probably the Legion of Honour of France.

    Kind regards,

    Owain

    Posted (edited)

    The dexter one really looks like the Legion d'Honneur of the ROYAL France. The ribbon of the central order is green with borders(?), i.e. neither of the Medjidiyeh, nor of Osmaniyeh.

     

    Edited by Mitya Ivanov
    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted

    Wow, what an interesting piece? Any idea what country it's from? I've never seen that coat of arms before, but the supporters and the palm tree and two stars make me think Hashemite Iraq?

    ARMS.jpg

    Maybe an earlier prototype design??

    Posted (edited)

    The colour arms are those of the Kingdom of Iraq:

    Two rivers - Tigris & Euphrates

    Two swords - Arabic & Kurdish

    Two stars - Order of Rafidain (two rivers in Arabic)

    Two supporters - Assyrian lion & Arab horse

    Two plants - wheat (food) & cotton (??) (industry) - also palms for dates

    Regards,

    Owain

    Edited by oamotme
    Posted

    The colour arms are those of the Kingdom of Iraq:

    Two rivers - Tigris & Euphrates

    Two swords - Arabic & Kurdish

    Two stars - Order of Rafidain (two rivers in Arabic)

    Two supporters - Assyrian lion & Arab horse

    Two plants - wheat (food) & cotton (??) (industry) - also palms for dates

    Regards,

    Owain

    Yes, I know. I meant the arms in the original post. I meant to compare them to the arms of the Kingdom of Iraq. Do you think the arms in the original post are a prototype design?

    Posted

    Do you know what country or era this piece is from? It might help us pinpoint what the order could be. Some of my guesses were that the order in the middle could be from Qajar-era Persia, but I can't find any Persian orders with a similar design, just that the suspension could be a rough representation of the Qajar crown? I've seen pictures of badges of the Tunisian Order of Iftikhar that also have a wreath, but none of those have a crown suspension.

    I'm pretty sure these are personal arms, and not the arms of a state. Do you think they might belong to some Near Eastern prince granted arms by some European monarch??

    Posted

    I find the design of these orders quite typical for the Persian decorations

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    But the crown is totally different.

    Posted (edited)

    Of course the button is not Persian. Maybe - north-african or near-eastern, yes. The Legion d'Honneur is ROYAL here (i.e. pre-1871). Do not think this (the arms) is some European grant - but Europeans could take part in its design.

    Edited by Mitya Ivanov

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