New fake docs on the market

[Chris Boonzaier]

This one is bringing a good price....

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Urkunde-fur-Eisernes-Kreuz-1-Klasse-/121860164970?hash=item1c5f6e8d6a:g:GKQAAOSwKtlWi~DY

Here is the blank from the source....

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Vorlaufiges-Besitzzeugnis-Eisernes-Kreuz-1-Klasse-1914-Reproduktion/191742454012?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32927%26meid%3D3e4f5ebe6b134e6d9a303ca0fe1ed778%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D181987206078

[Chris Boonzaier]

Another bit of fake sht...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Urkunde-Besitzzeugnis-Verwundetenabzeichen-Vwa-Schwarz/181987207150?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32927%26meid%3D8255224d67104567be08d0ee4fa38169%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D181987206078

[Tony]

What's the obvious mistake to spot they're both repros, is it the units or something else? Paying 8 euros for one being sold as a copy is certainly worth it for the fakers.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

for the EK, other than that the blanks are for sale, this ugly typing and regimental stamp has been used for fakes of other docs for a few years now.

The terrible writing on the wound badge is the same illegible scrawl as was used on the fake colonial docs some years ago.

here is one with fake cross...

 

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orden-Eisernes-Kreuz-1-Klasse-1914-mit-Nadel-und-Besitzzeugnis-Top-Anfertigung-/191780961418?hash=item2ca7093c8a:g:igkAAOSwaA5WlPRc

[Chris Boonzaier]

Another one...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Urkunde-Besitzzeugnis-Eisernes-Kreuz-2-Klasse-EK-II-/181987205147?hash=item2a5f48601b:g:AJIAAOSwaA5Wkl20

This one looks bad as well...

The last three by the same seller.

[Tony]

The writing is a bit untidy and reminds me of modern illegible German handwriting but they'd still fool me. Another minefield for someone who just wants a doc. to go with an iron cross.

[Chris Liontas]

Wow those are fairly good.  For the inexperienced that is getting dangerous.  I'd be fooled as well  

[paul wood]

Chris,

Sorry if I am being thick but are the blanks genuine remainders or are they fakes as well.

Paul

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

 

the blanks are modern copies and sold as such, then filled out and aged.

[paul wood]

Thanks Chris

Paul

[Chris Boonzaier]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Urkunde-Besitzzeugnis-EK-1-Eisernes-Kreuz-1-Klasse-kaiserliche-Schutztruppe/222004783548?_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133650%26meid%3D7b8521062a194b9a99ea3e6ca83ceb80%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D321982859325

[Uffz. Rohleder]

If you look close - the folding looks brand new.