Hashim.A.Khan Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Tamgha-i-Khidmat, also know as the service medal is the fifth highest honour given by the government of Pakistan. The fact that fascinates me is that these medals aren't necessarily the same size. According to my sources, these medals come in three sizes each, the 1st class medal pictured is the medium sized variant whereas the remaining two are the large sized specimens. Any information and suggestions on the varying sizes will be highly appreciated Regards Hashim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) I have an example of the fifth class which is roughly 40 mm across by 63 mm from the bottom of the star to the top of the suspension. Edited December 9, 2016 by Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Hashim, Nice to hear from you again. Basically there are two types of Tamgha-i-Khidmat The first type as issued in 1957 is larger and the First class is hallmarked SGP and the Second class is hallmarked SSP. Later probably around the 80s the second type was issued, these are smaller, 37mm and none of the classes are hallmarked. I hope this is of help An unusually large number were awarded in 1957 to cover the period from independence. I hope this is of help, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashim.A.Khan Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 Hey Hugh Fifth class? That's the first time I'm hearing about the fifth class, thought there were only 3 classes, as pictured regards Hashim Thank you for the reply Paul, do you have any prior information about how many classes there are? @Hugh mentioned a fifth class which is something I've never seen nor heard regards Hashim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Hashim, there are three classes. First Silver-gilt, Second silver and Third bronze, no other classes that I am aware of, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Now and then it's useful to look at one's notes instead of just winging it from memory. Apologies. I have this listed as Tamgha-i-Khidmat 2nd class in my inventory. Is that correct? Dimensions shown in previous post. Thanks, Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashim.A.Khan Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Hey Hugh This is the second class you've published the picture of, could you share the picture of that fifth class you mentioned earlier? Hashim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Hashim, I think Hugh mixed his Second and Fifth class up, by the way Hugh does the second class have a SSP hallmark? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the help. The medal is in a glassed frame, so I can't get a look. Sorry. Any thoughts on the white enamel vs. no enamel? H Edited December 12, 2016 by Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Hugh I believe it once had white enamel on the star which has since gone AWOL. All the best, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashim.A.Khan Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 I do agree with Paul since i have seen first class medals marked sgp with faded gold plating, so that the medal itself is clear silver even though its first class Hashim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Far be it for me to dissent from those more knowledgeable, but just a couple of observations. I can't see any trace of remaining enamel, and normally, I'd expect to see at least a small ridge at the edge of the enamelled surface to prevent the liquid enamel from running over the edge. There is none. Of course, neither of these is conclusive but I wonder if anyone has ever heard of a non-enamelled version. Just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashim.A.Khan Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hey Hugh This was the reason why i posted this, really interesting to find out different views and the most prominent of all, all the new information that follows. Im wondering if you could share more information about the fourth and fifth class if you come across Hashim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Hashim, according to the 1957 Gazette of Pakistan Extraordinary 27 March 1957 it was only issued in three classes. It was issued to replace the British OBI and it's award criteria was very similar Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I'm late to this topic but will wade in anyway, in my usual handless fashion. Is it possible that the earlier, hallmarked versions did NOT have enamel and that the later versions had it added for aesthetic reasons or to make up for the fact - I'm assuming, here, from the lack of hallmarks - that they were not made of precious metal? Just a thought. Interesting topic and always good to hear from you, Hashim, a younger member, of which we seem to have a sad lack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 22 hours ago, Hashim.A.Khan said: Hey Hugh This was the reason why i posted this, really interesting to find out different views and the most prominent of all, all the new information that follows. Im wondering if you could share more information about the fourth and fifth class if you come across Hashim Sorry to disappoint, but I'm afraid that the fourth and fifth class exist only in my fevered brain. I wrote without consulting my source data, and, as often happens, screwed up. I was probably thinking of the European orders, many of which have five classes, but NOT the Tamgha-i-Khidmat. Now, about that enamle... Best, Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashim.A.Khan Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Hey Peter Has been a couple of months since this medal fever took over me, interesting to find new information of the forum. The most interesting this about these three medals is the quality. The 3rd class seems to lack simple finishing whereas the second one looks to have been inspected. The first class is pure perfection, interesting to see how the quality changes through the three medals Hashim Hey Paul Pretty sure Hugh misunderstood something, i panicked there a bit hearing about the fifth class, took me pretty decent time to find extra ordinary specimens Hashim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Hashim, Based on material and illustration I have accessed on both types there is no doubt that they were originally enamelled. The only possible unenamelled pieces would be Pakistan mint trials (of which I am sure several would have been made prior to production). Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashim.A.Khan Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 Hey Paul Really appreciate the information Hashim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Riley Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Tamgha I Khidmat, 2nd Class Edited February 26, 2020 by Doc Riley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just noticed this post. Oooh, that is a pretty thing! Any chance we could get a close-up shot of it, Doc? And welcome to the GMIC! Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Riley Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Dear Gentlemen, Tamgha-i-Khidmat 1st class 3rd type : The same with original ribbon : Tamgha-i-Khidmat 2nd class 1st type : Yours sincerely, No one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) Dear Gentlemen, Tamgha-i-Khidmat 3rd class 3rd type : Another one : Both : The three classes : The source of the classification is "Medals Catalogue of Pakistan" by Yahya Qureshi & Rafiq Kasbati : Yours sincerely, No one Edited February 3, 2023 by No one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Dear Gentlemen, I have never come across a blue one, until today. Is it genuine? Yours sincerely, No one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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