Hallmarks ID Thai Orders

[cazack]

Hello

 

I am trying to see if anyone can translate the hallmarks on the attached Thai orders

kind regards and thanks

Caz

[ThaiDave]

Hi Caz,

The first one (ประเสริฐศิลป์) is the medal manufacturer Prasatsin.

The second one is a manufacturing date stamp ๐๘ (08) = 2508 (1965)

The third one is ก.ษ. (abbreviation for กองกระษาปณ์) = the Thai Mint, followed by the date stamp 33 overstamped with 34.  (33 = 2533 = 1990, 34 = 2534 = 1991)

Rgds

Dave

 

Edited January 11, 2017 by ThaiDave
correction

[paul wood]

Dave,

Thanks for the explanation of the Thai dating system, a great help.

Paul

[ThaiDave]

Paul,

Thailand uses Buddhist Era (BE), which is mostly 543 years later than the Christian/Common Era (AD).  Usually only the latter two digits of the dates are used for medal hallmarks, although I've seen a couple medals with the full four digits.

For earlier medals mainly from Rama V era, the Rattanakosin Era (RE or RS) of three digits is sometimes used, with year 1 starting 1782.

There is a short description here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_solar_calendar

Thai numbers can also be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_numerals

Rgds

Dave

[cazack]

Hi Dave

thanks for the information and insight

 

kind regards

Caz

[paul wood]

Dave,

Most helpful as ever. It is nice when someone with your knowledge is happy to share it.

Paul

 

[cazack]

hello again

i have another hallmark / date if someone can help to ID / translate

 

thank you in advance

 

Caz

 

 

[EdMc]

GMIC Members and Distinguished Guests,  I am a new member and novice collector of Medals from Indochina. I find this blog and activity fascinating. I have read all applicable references and after many, many hours of research I am still stumped on the date and hallmark inscriptions on the reverse of this THAILAND ORDER OF THE WHITE ELEPHANT 3RD CL MEDAL. The imprint stamper may have taken some literary license in formatting the letters.

I even tried the Google Translate Thai Handwritten format scores of times. What it said to me is not suitable for publication or decipherable. No, I have top of the shelf antispyware. I even submitted these pictures to transcription service (paying my own way) but they have not responded for over a month.

Would appreciate receiving any assistance from your sources of knowledge.

Respectfully,

EdMc

 

 

 

 

[ThaiDave]

Hi EdMc

This stamping give the maker and year of manufacture.

The maker company name is เส่งหลี (Seng Lee). 

The year of manufacture is ๒๙ or 29 = (25)29 B.E., which equals 2529-543 = 1986 A.D.  (See the Thai numbering system here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_numerals)

Rgds

Dave

[EdMc]

Thank you Dave.

Ed Mc

[cazack]

Hello

 

I brought this Order of the White Elephant 2nd Class (Ladies issue) today and seems stuck on the issue  / production date, can anyine help

 

It shows 51/2

 

regards

Caz

[ThaiDave]

Hi Caz

51 is 2551 - 543 = 2008

/2 is one of the Thai Mint marks.  Now most of the medals are made there.

Rgds

Dave

[cazack]

Thank you

 

kind regards