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  1. Hi Micke Officially it is light blue. But I have never seen any ribbons still light blue. The ribbon itself fades, as even in-between where there is no sun, it is also faded. Some even have slight green tint. I have seen the 2nd pic you posted, but I don't remember where it was from - I presume it is colored. Picture from 1992 Thai Medals Department book : Picture from Thai Medals Department 1970 book (oldest color pic I have): Most unfaded ribbon pic I have Typical fading on all sides of ribbon - not sun fading on front only ( I didn't try to peer inside the threads - might be useful for less oxidized color ?) Most I've seen nearly all completely faded, however this one I can see the internal fibers still some greenish color Miniature Rgds Dave www.indochinamedals.com
  2. Hi MIcke There was a collar from 1893 thru 1941. It was only ever used by the king. The special class is not a collar. It was created in 1909, and was the highest class (presumably below the collar). The insignia on the 1942 certificates on is the special class, not the now obsolete collar. However, until 1941, the type of medal displayed on the certificates was the type obsoleted in 1909. Strange to show the obsoleted design when it was not longer used Rgds Dave
  3. Hi Micke The special class was created in 1909, not 1941. (Their was also a collar created in 1893, but used only for the King. In the regulations others could have it, but it was never given out and eventually canceled.)
  4. Hi Micke The initial reproduction series of these medals (many different medals) all had the same ribbon. There were a couple later ribbon versions. There wasn't any attempt to have them with correct type ribbons. Long time back I searched out many of these reproductions, and eventually I found the stall of the guy that had them made. He had drawers of all the different parts, and assembled them in every combination. The bars were all the same. Here are some examples of these reproductions, along with others :
  5. Hi demir This is a well known series of fakes from Mike shank (aka mcstls) https://www.ebay.com/sch/mcstls/m.html?_...1&_from=&_ipg= https://www.ebay.com/sch/gshank0121/m.html?item=232970098725&hash=item363e199825%3Ag%3AUe4AAOSwSzdXA-XC%3Ark%3A4%3Apf%3A0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
  6. Socialist Republic of Vietnam – Friendship Order Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. Does anyone have the 1997 regulations ? 2. Does anyone have different variations ? or brass vs. aluminum examples ? (not Friendship Decorations – that is another page) 3. Does anyone have any other references for this order ? 4. Does anyone have any award certificates for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-10_friendship_order.html Rgds Dave
  7. Socialist Republic of Vietnam – Bravery Order Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. This order was created by decree in 2003, and ratified in 2004. The design was given in the decree of 2006. Does anyone know when it actually came out ? in 2004 (was their earlier design info elsewhere ?) or only in 2006 when the design details were decreed ? 2. Does anyone know if the initial 2004 versions had 25mm ribbons and then 28mm per the 2006 regulations ? 3. Does anyone have any references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-09_bravery_order.html Rgds Dave
  8. Socialist Republic of Vietnam – National Unity Order Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. This order was created by decree in 2003, and ratified in 2004. The design was given in the decree of 2006. Does anyone know when it actually came out ? in 2004 (was their earlier design info elsewhere ?) or only in 2006 when the design details were decreed ? 2. Does anyone have any pictures of the 2004 version ? 3. Does anyone have any references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-08_national_unity_order.html Rgds Dave
  9. Socialist Republic of Vietnam – Combatant Order Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. Does anyone have any other variations? 2. Does anyone know what these other items are from (stone and copper)? 3. Does anyone have pictures or other info for the two early DRV types ? Or any certificates ? 5. Does anyone have additional references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-07_combatant_order.html Rgds Dave
  10. Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. This order was created by decree in 2003, and ratified in 2004. The design was given in the decree of 2006. Does anyone know when it actually came out ? in 2004 (was their earlier design info elsewhere ?) or only in 2006 when the design details were decreed ? 2. There are two types of 2004/6 version ribbon. The red/blue version is not matching the 2006 design decree, however was reported in Ed Emering’s article as being valid. (size is smaller and color different) Maybe this was version in 2004 ? and 2006 version was final ? Anybody know ? 3. Does anyone have additional references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-06_fatherland_defence_order.html Rgds Dave
  11. Socialist Republic of Vietnam – Military Exploit Order Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. Does anyone have any other variations? 2. The 1959 US Army publication shows without wreath. Anyone ever seen other evidence of this for an early type ? (that is not just one with a removed/lost wreath) 3. Does anyone have any more pictures of the early DRV type ? 4. Does anyone have additional references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-04_military_exploit_order.html Rgds Dave
  12. Socialist Republic of Vietnam – Labor Order Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. Does anyone have any other variations? 2. There seems to be one authentic early numbered type. What other numbers do people have ? Has anyone been able to research recipients ? 3. I came across a more modern looking couple examples with numbering, which also have unusual colors. Presumably this is a copy ? Anyone else ever seen this type ? 4. There is a crude type with numbers out there. Presumably this is a copy. What other numbers do people have ? When do people remember first seeing this type ? 5. Does anyone have additional references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-05_labor_order.html Rgds Dave
  13. Socialist Republic of Vietnam – Independence Order Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. Does anyone have any other variations, or know when/where any were made ? 2. Does anyone know of recipients lists ? 3. Does anyone have any other early DRV-type pictures ? 4. Does anyone have additional references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-03_independence_order.html Rgds Dave
  14. Hi All, I am adding SRV pages to my website, and I had some questions from the SRV collectors out there : 1. Does anyone have any other modern type pictures ? 2. I have come across 3 types reproductions of this order. Does anyone have any other different copy types or have any others with fake numbers ? (same or other numbers) Or when they starting seeing these on the market ? Or who has been making them ? 3. Does anyone know of recipients lists ? 4. Does anyone have any other early DRV-type pictures, or any people wearing other than Giap ? Or know which museums these pictures are from ? 5. Does anyone have additional references for this order ? The draft page is here: http://www.indochinamedals.com/srv/o-02_ho_chi_minh_order.html Rgds Dave
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