Bulgaria Medal for Merit and Order for Merit

[Yankee]

6 hours ago, Igor Ostapenko said:

Hi Yankee, 

Type TELGE little head - early and very rare  

( little head - little signature ) 

Hi Igor

So basically there are three types of merit order from Ferdinand period. Two with signature and one without.

Opps the little head I thought was common with TELGE signature.  I have one of them just need to check engraver.

Roughly what years were they awarded from by TELGE? Thanks The ones without signature are fake

[Igor Ostapenko]

all three with signature , but two with little head and little signature and one with big signature - big head  

you can open my scans in another window . 

with TELGE - 1908 y . 

(Paul Telge died in 1909 ) 

 

without Telge - all WWI period 

[Igor Ostapenko]

On 29 באוקטובר 2017 at 20:48, Igor Ostapenko said:

gold grade “little head” P.TELGE sold by Victor 

http://bulgarianorders.com/i-166-1908-bulgaria-royal-merit-order-gold-1c-yelge.html 

 

I think- this is original order first class ! 

 

few pictures of this order and box 

SILBER 990 

[Yankee]

4 hours ago, Igor Ostapenko said:

all three with signature , but two with little head and little signature and one with big signature - big head  

you can open my scans in another window . 

with TELGE - 1908 y . 

(Paul Telge died in 1909 ) 

 

without Telge - all WWI period 

There is one without signature. The merit order right above ( left example ) looks to have no engraver.

If there is I can't see with naked eye, who is it?

[Igor Ostapenko]

[Yankee]

On 10/31/2017 at 17:11, Igor Ostapenko said:

Hi Igor

 

Should this one be from the time of the Serbian Bulgarian 1885 conflict?

Any idea how many were awarded from that period?

[Igor Ostapenko]

Hi Yankee , 

you have rare early  "little head" variation, with signature Telge, from 1908 year. 

You must clean this order and you will find discription on the rim of medallion  

[Igor Ostapenko]

I have Information from book, and only for 1881-1908 yy. period 

[Igor Ostapenko]

 

1882 
4 Bulgarian officers
10 foreighners

1883 
5 Bulgarians 
45 foreighners 

1884 
5 Bulgarians
12 foreighners 

1885 
11 Bulgarians
15 foreighners

1886 
196 Bulgarian officers for 1885-86 War 
5 foreighners 

 

( not exectly, sorry  )

[Igor Ostapenko]

Yankee  , 

your order from Viktor too  

 http://bulgarianorders.com/i-167-1908-bulgaria-royal-merit-order-yelge-rare.html  

very rare early order !!! 

( Can you to use best camera ?  )

[Yankee]

9 hours ago, Igor Ostapenko said:

Yankee  , 

your order from Viktor too  

 http://bulgarianorders.com/i-167-1908-bulgaria-royal-merit-order-yelge-rare.html  

very rare early order !!! 

( Can you to use best camera ?  )

Hi Igor

Thanks a bunch for providing that excellent research.  I suppose the vast majority were awarded in peace time of this type.  So this begs the question of how many were awarded for the Balkan Wars of 1912,13 & WWl? Interesting that in the beginning most of the awards went to foreigners is mostly because Alexander brought his own officers I think.  I did actually purchase that order of merit from Victor but not the one shown above.

As I recall there were 5 or 6 orders of merit all of the same signature telge being offered at once.  So I just assumed being so many that they were not scarce. The one you show from vicmart is a Yelge which he describes as being scarce too. Vicmart describes the Yelge piece being early too or is he wrong? At that time remember seeing the order of merit Alexander type with wreath and one with chain but that was 10 or more years ago and I suspect long gone from his list. Did manage to pick up an Alexander type medal of merit from him.

 

[Igor Ostapenko]

"little head" 1st Telge variation have silvermark  SILBER 990  an 12 o'clock 

"big head" 2nd Telge variation have silvermark an 4 o'clock 

Edited December 30, 2017 by Igor Ostapenko

[Yankee]

On 12/30/2017 at 10:09, Igor Ostapenko said:

"little head" 1st Telge variation have silvermark  SILBER 990  an 12 o'clock 

"big head" 2nd Telge variation have silvermark an 4 o'clock 

 

Great Eye Vision

 

 

[ilieff]

Rarest of things:

Medal of merit - solid gold, 2nd Ferdinand emission

If we assume that this is the original case, who would be the maker? Rothe? Or perhaps Schwerdtner?

Image courtesy of Mr Manov, collector

[Igor Ostapenko]

Bad quality of pictures ... 

Can you ask good pictures from mr. Manov ? 

( and picture of reverse of 1st type Red Cross Badge and of box  ) 

[Graf]

Hi Igor,

 

Here are close vew of  my medals

Both came without boxes One was removed from a medals bar and the other was mounted  German Style

I have never checked the material they have been made.

What i just noticed that the Medal with the Princely crown is thinner and lighter then the one with the King Crown

That makes me think to go to my local jeweler

 

Cheers

[Igor Ostapenko]

 you must to go to your local juveler !!! 

I like your merit medals !!! 

[Igor Ostapenko]

nice medal