Austrian ww1 bar ? Correct ?

[scottplen]

Looking at this on line ! Correct ? Order seems wrong ? Would iron cross be after Austrian awards ? 

[tifes]

Hi Scottplen,

well, everything seems to be wrong here. It´s basically "non-sense". EK II was given to officers only. This composition is showing NCO awards. There is very little chance that some kuk NCO would have got EK II. He should have been serving in kuk Army unit directly subordinated under German command. Then his merits in combat would have been seen equally as any other German NCO. These situations had been extremely rare and you can count them on the fingers of one hand. In real life kuk NCO couldn't get EKII. 

Then first medal on the bar is Commemorative Medal of the 1. Austrian republic issued in 1932. It should be at the end of the bar, but before EK II (foreign decoration). Situation changed after "Anschluss" when Austria became part of the 3rd Reich. Then all German decorations would have priority so EK II would be first in the line before any Austrian one. 

Another problem is with JEM 1898 and MDZ for enlisted soldiers and NCO. If somebody had JEM 1898 then he had to have also JEK 1908. This would also mean that this particular NCO was serving in the army since 1897/1898 so at the end of WWI he would be entitled to get MDZ for NCO for 20 years of service or at least for 10 years (if some circumferences occurred). However on the bar there is only MDZ for enlisted men and NCO for 6 years.

Mobilization Cross 1912/1913 would be after JEM 1898  just before Commemorative Medal of the 1. Austrian republic. 

Moreover the brass bar with long needle is not of Austrian style. I would say that this is just random selection of medals which was put altogether. It has very little to do with the reality, 

Regards,

Tifes

     

[scottplen]

Ok thank you !!!

[Farkas]

Hi gents

Imagine the difference if ALL Ww1 medals were named...

 

tony