JNoble Posted April 6, 2006 Author Posted April 6, 2006 Reverse, Does anyone recognize the makers logo.
MattGibbs Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Just a GUESS but it may be M1/90 Aprech & Vrage of Leipzig, looks like a V and an A...??They are the only firm with A and V in the company initials in the RZM lists. Suprised it is not rzm marked in a way, but I like the late war type.RegardsMatt Gibbs
Scowen Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Nice badge, no idea about the mark I'm afraid. Matt, the DRK were not covered by the RZM regulations so none of their badges are marked in that way.CheersDon
Scowen Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 Detlev had a badge this week from the same maker, seems to have a K in it as well..... Cheers Don
JNoble Posted April 7, 2006 Author Posted April 7, 2006 (edited) Thanks Don for posting Detlev's badge with a much clearer look at that maker mark I thought that was a K above the AV on mine but wasn't positive. Also thank you Rosenberg for showing us your pristine enamel DRK badge I have one of those as well one question how did you determine this was a Deschler made badge. Edited April 7, 2006 by JNoble
Rosenberg Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 Hi J,I have seen an example once that had a different backside.Where mine shows the Ges.Gesch. the other one simply had "1".If you check the font of the Ges. and compare it to the GPB?s it?s a match.Of course, I may be wrong with that,on 2nd thought I rather had written which I believe to be Deschler made since there is no MM. Regards
JNoble Posted April 9, 2006 Author Posted April 9, 2006 DRK Sisterhood Active Service Brooch The green border indicates Division Chief.
BURGERHAUS Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 James, Very nice and very well documented. With serial numbers and an organization like the Red Cross, I suspect you might even be able to find out who wore (sp) them. I also notice that your black version has the same maker as Don's Frauenhilfedienst badge. I hope someday to add this version to my collection. Now I know how they should be marked. I have always steered clear of these for lack of knowledge. Thanks for showing them. Robert
Scowen Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Here's my Active Sisterhood badge. It's the very same one as pictured & described in Angolia's "In the Service of the Reich" Cheers Don
JNoble Posted April 10, 2006 Author Posted April 10, 2006 DRK Member's Association Lapel pin type 2. This and the type 1 pin were worn by the DRK member while not in their working uniform.
Scowen Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Nice one James, I haven't managed to trap one of those yet CheersDon
ERIC Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Reverse, Does anyone recognize the makers logo.Hi Guys, That mark is actually KWM for the firm Karl Wurster Markneukirchen, RZM# M1/34. It is seen regularly on IAB's and PAB's. Here's a reference book shot.ERIC[attachmentid=34116]
JNoble Posted April 10, 2006 Author Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) Hi Guys, That mark is actually KWM for the firm Karl Wurster Markneukirchen, RZM# M1/34. It is seen regularly on IAB's and PAB's. Here's a reference book shot.ERIC Eric, Thank you for clearing that up, I didn't notice the K until I was looking at the picture I took of the reverse even then it's hard to see on mine. Edited April 10, 2006 by JNoble
JNoble Posted April 10, 2006 Author Posted April 10, 2006 Robert, Here are two more Helferin Badges one painted with a CB mm which is (Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen) the other one is enamel with a E.L.M. mm which is (Ernst L. M?ller, Pforzheim).
BURGERHAUS Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Nice badges gents. I thought I would get this one in because of the nice enamel cross. Robert
BURGERHAUS Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 [attachmentid=34175][attachmentid=34176] Here is my Type II for civilian wear. I suspect 65+ years of bouncing around have given it a fair bit of wear. Robert
blondehairlesswombat Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 I have a question..I am looking for a pin that the "female doctor" would wear..there is reference to the existance of a female doctor.."Artzin" however I cannot for the life of me find any badges..Help!Thanks so muchChristine Maddox
Guest Rick Research Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 The ?rzt/?rztin Abzeichen was literally an insignia and not a badge. I've got one shown in a 1968 rip-off reprint of an uncreditted German 1942 "all organizations" book, and the same German medical snake-on-pole embroidered design on a diamond shaped patch is shown as #4 on Plate 53 of Brian L. Davis's "Badges and Insignia of the Third Reich 1933-45."But that's two drawings and not what the actual badge looked like--or where it was worn on which sleeve.
blondehairlesswombat Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 the sleeve dimond goes on the lower left sleeve of both the overcoat and blouse. I am including a drawing that is taken from the DRK uniform requirements for the female DRK staff. It is titled "?rztin". What the heck kind of neck badge is being used on the tie? It almost looks like a Schwerternhelferin badge with the greek-key border design..but that would not make sense..a Schwerternhelferin badge for a doctor? I have to this date not been able to find this badge... [attachmentid=40459] Any information of this is appreciated! Thanks Christine
JNoble Posted April 29, 2007 Author Posted April 29, 2007 Here's one a nurse's badge I believe the blue border indecates it's a Supervisors badge.
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