Great Dane Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) I have a question for you experts in German Imperial awards. I'm researching a guy (German civilian) who was awarded the Prussian Red Eagle order 3. class with bow followed by 2. class with oakleaves. Not an expert on German Imperial orders, but I seem to have read on this forum that there were specific 'rules' when transitioning through classes (like the "if you were awarded class x with device Y, the next one up would be class A with device B" sort of thing)...? His 2 awards were at least 7 years apart (if the rules apply to awards for seniority). Would the move from 3. class with bow to 2. class with oakleaves be such a 'standard' transition? Thanks. Edited May 12, 2019 by Great Dane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Hi, yes you are right, when he was prussian. Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 That was my suspicion ? Thanks Andreas. /Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 The bow indicates, (1) that the Person wearing the 3rd class was awarded the 4th class of the Red Eagle Order before and (2) that he is a Prussian subject. The Oakleaves indicate (1) that the Person wearing this order was awarded all lower classes of the Red Eagle Order before and (2) that he is a Prussian subject. Regards, Komtur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Interesting... then I'll have to figure out when he was awarded the 4th class... time for more research ? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 If you tell me the name, I can give you the date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 His name is Hucke. I don't know his first name... it is never mentioned in any of the official records where I found him (including Handbuch für das Deutsche Reich 1874 to 1890). He ended up as "Wirchlicher Geheimer Ober-Regierungs-Rath" and worked in the Reich-Postamt (before then the Post- und Telegraphen Verwaltung). He probably died around 1900. If you can find him, that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Hucke got the 4th class in 1868. Unfortunately these early editions of the Ordens-Listen did not mention the exact date of the awards. Regards, Komtur. Edited May 13, 2019 by Komtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 Excellent. Before I started this thread I didn't even know he got the 4th class. Thanks a lot! /Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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