Austro-Hungarian Navy Frock Coat

[ralstona]

I had originally posted this over in the British section because I thought it was Royal Navy.  Thanks to a forum member for properly id'ing it.

I hadn't looked at the back of the buttons. (I'm not sure why, I always do.)  There are several types:  

Some say:  "A        U"  and "Qualitat"

Others say: "Bruder Schneider Wein"

Still others say: "KUK Hof Lieferanten"

So a few questions.  

1.  What date? Obviously before 1918 but more specific than that?

2.  No cuff ranks, would there have been any?

3.  It has loops for epaulettes.  What would they look like?

4.  It has loops for two medals.  Any idea what they would have been?  Not so much which particular medals.  I know that's impossible.  There are two overlapping stiff cord medal hangers.  Would that be for two medals or a bar with more than two?

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by ralstona

[GdC26]

2.  No cuff ranks, would there have been any? YES: see link https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/573995/

3.  It has loops for epaulettes.  What would they look like? SEE PICS

4.  It has loops for two medals.  Any idea what they would have been?  Not so much which particular medals.  I know that's impossible.  There are two overlapping stiff cord medal hangers.  Would that be for two medals or a bar with more than two? TWO LOOPS, two medals - see the link above (pic too large to upload)

Very easy to research doing a quick Google search (and actually fun).

 

[ralstona]

Many thanks.  Austrian uniforms are totally outside my area.  (Although the navy piece is on theme).  I looked closely at the sleeves.  I don't know, maybe there were ranks cuffs at some point.  Are there any cases where there wouldn't have been any (i.e. warrant officers)?  

I assuming its WWI as opposed to, say, 1870s.  Is there any way to nail it down?  

[Gordon Craig]

Gentlemen,

I learn something new everyday.  

Regards,

Gordon

 

[Gordon Craig]

ralstona,

Here are a couple of pictures of the navy section of the HGM in Viena.  There are some frock coats in the pictures.  You might want to send pictures of your frock coat to the HGM and see what they have to say about it.  Unlike most museums the HGM has always responded to my questions. 

Regards,

Gordon

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Gordon Craig

[ralstona]

Very interesting.  Thank you.

[ralstona]

I've decided to sell this on.  I am a Royal Navy collector and this doesn't fit as interesting as it is.  I've put it on ebay (US) if anyone is interested.

 

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