BlackcowboyBS Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Hello, a friend of mine owns this miniature of the pilots badge of Austro-Hungarien Empire. He showed it to me and asked why there is just one crown on this badge. The pilot badges from emporer Karl should have two crowns? Does anyone have any clue? To be honest I don't even know if this is a modern copy or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian1962 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) The national Coat o Arms was changed in 1915 from the single "Rudolph"-style crown to the double "Rudolph"-style and Hungarian Crown. Therefore you will find two versions of some medals during WW1. Compare with "Signum Laudis": here was the single crown in use until the death of emporer Franz Joseph. The medals of emporer Karl show the new type double crown. Regards Christian Edited May 21, 2021 by Christian1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 true, but you can see that this badge has the letter "K" in it, so it is from Karl and should have had two crowns, this was the reason for me asking it. But Thank you for your clarification, my questions was not accurate enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian1962 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 The crowns were not changed at the same date as Karl became emporer. It was done in October 1917. So should be pieces which displayed the single crown between approx. January/February 1917 and autumn 1917. Existing pieces were issued as long as on stock. Regards Christian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Simius Rex said: The discussion is focusing on a single crown versus a double crown. This issue is the LEAST of the shown pilot badge's problems. Hi Simius Rex, I totally agree with you, but I wanted to be polite. The photo was sent to me by my friend and my first insight was: Copy even if a miniature it looks terrible! But as this is an english forum for Gentlemen, I just wanted to indicate my doubts. But if the forum prefers the plain German way of being straight forward, I can do so as well! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 21/05/2021 at 14:29, Christian1962 said: The crowns were not changed at the same date as Karl became emporer. It was done in October 1917. So should be pieces which displayed the single crown between approx. January/February 1917 and autumn 1917. Existing pieces were issued as long as on stock. Regards Christian Hi Christian, have you ever seen an original pilot badge with letter "K" with only one crown or are the only ones known allways have two crowns? Thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 Thank you Triad08 for your post! I appreciate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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