Venda order

[Rookie]

Hi, this is my first post with photos, so let see....

I got this orders of Thohoyandou, from Venda pre 1994

I can't find any info on them and no pictures on the net. so I presume they are scarce.

 

 

[Marcon1]

 

Order of Thohoyandou (1977-94) (1981-1994)
For distinguished service to Venda. The order was divided into four classes:

• Grand Cross - for heads of state and prime ministers.
• Grand Commander
• Commander
• Officer

Insignia: A green-enamelled oval shield framed by two ivory tusks and depicting a golden elephant head (obverse) and the Venda national arms (reverse). The first three classes are worn around the neck, and the fourth on the chest. The Grand Cross and Grand Commander also have a gold 8-pointed breast star displaying the badge.

 

 

The Order of Thohoyandou – The symbols of the orders are in the form of an oval shield made from silver, framing and a facing elephant head by tusks in ivory. The higher the order the more ornate with a 8 pointed star and gilt multi rayed star. Some of the decorations have makers and silver mark.   Marcon1.   NB: I have seen just 2 full sets being offered on Ebay and BidorBuy in the last 5 years, so they are pretty scarce.

[Rookie]

Thanks Marcon1, for the info.

[fjcp]

Just wow...I've been collecting homeland stuff for 5 years now, and my brother 10 years before that, and I've never seen these before.  Congratulations. I wish more of the homeland stuff was available but I guess that's part of the charm!!

Great stuff!!!

[archie777]

Hi Rookie,

 

Excellent sets Chris. Always nice to see such excellent and rare items. Will contact you regarding that silver Order of the Leopard

 

Regards

Archie

[Megan]

Anyone got decent size images they would be prepared to share? Rookie's  pictures are great for identification purposes but too small to be useful.

[archie777]

Hi Megan, 

 

I will try to assist with what I have.

 

Also received the pictures from him

 

Regards

Archie

[archie777]

Hi Megan,

 

Here we have the Order of Thohoyandou - Special Class: Grand Cross

 

The pictures is with compliments from Rookie

 

Regards

Archie

Here we have the Order of Thohoyandou - First Class: Grand Commander

 

The pictures is with compliments from Rookie

Here we have the Order of Thohoyandou - Second Class: Commander

 

The pictures is with compliments from Rookie

Here we have the Order of Thohoyandou - Third Class: Officer

 

The pictures is with compliments from Rookie

Here we have the Order of Thohoyandou - Miniature for the Classes

 

The pictures is with compliments from Rookie

[archie777]

Here we have the Star of the Order of Thohoyandou 

 

The pictures is with compliments from Rookie

Explanation on the different Classes

This is unfortunately the clearest pictures you can get

[Megan]

Very nice, thank you so much!

[archie777]

Megan, Marcon1 & Rookie,

 

References for the Order of Transkei, all Classes, as follows:

 

Authority for issue, by Warrant under the hand of President TN Ndamase, dated 4 November 1987 and published under General Notice No. 149, in the Republic of Transkei Government Gazette, Vol. 12, dated 10 December 1987.

[archie777]

If anyone needs more information, feel free to contact me anytime

[Rookie]

Hi Archie

You need to explain to Megan the Order of Ingwe.

I see that on her site, she got the wrong picture in  the 3rd Class

 

Chris

[archie777]

Hi Chris,

 

I will get hold of her and explain the difference

 

I'm fortunate to have a friend that will take quality photos of decorations, that I only have drawing of

[Rookie]

Archie

Seeing your collection on here, I am surprised you don't have everything out there...Lol

 

 

[archie777]

Hi Chris,

 

I still have a lot in my safe, that must cone on display boards

 

The book and so many other things keeps me busy

[archie777]

Hi Chris,

 

On which site is the pictures of the Order of Indwe that Megan explained wrongly?

[Rookie]

On this one:

https://www.medals.org.uk/south-africa/south-africa171.htm

[archie777]

Hi Chris,

 

Thanks a million. Still far to go for Megan, but we will support her as far as we can

 

Will get good quality pictures of excellent Homeland awards soon

 

Regards

Archie

[Megan]

I have seen your images of the Order of Indwe Archie, and realised the error of my ways, but thank you, Chris, for pointing it out. I'd rather hear about something I've spotted than miss something that needs doing!

 

However I'm an academic and it's peak assessment time, I am buried under emails from distraught students and piles of marking. Not eveni managing to keep up on here and barely meeting my 'medal a night' target. Roll on the weekend...

[archie777]

Hi Megan,

 

I also miss out on my book for the past week, but hope to have good quality pictures of some Homeland awards that I only have drawings of.

 

I will definitely share them on GMIC.

 

I'm waiting to hear where I can get good quality photos of all Prisons Services awards.

 

Regards

Archie

[archie777]

Hi Megan, 

 

If you need clearer pictures of any awards, please let me know

 

Will start with the different South African Awards soon

 

Regards

Archie

[Megan]

Thank you, Archie, you are very kind.

 

And it's now Friday, I've finally managed to clear down my work emails, and intend to play with medals all weekend. Marking can wait until Monday!

[archie777]

Pleasure Megan,

 

Let me know where I can help you

 

You have to see my set of 1968 of the SA Prisons Service

 

Have a great weekend

 

Regards

Archie

[Megan]

Just trying to catch up on what you have posted on GMIC and adding notes to the log file of image sources for the website - there's a big chart for each section/nation so I can track the source of everything used and acknowledge appropriately. Then there's another Word document for each nation which has every detail I can find for each award and the high quality images. That's the one that will become a PDF eventually and be made available to anyone who wants it.