Avitas Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Greetings from beautiful BC,Here is my Deutsches Frauenwerk membership pin with RZM m1/13 maker mark on it. Where abouts in the timeline would this badge fit in? Were the Deutches Frauenschaft pins an earlier name for the same organization? or were they separate groups? I have seen a few of your collections on the one other post and the membership badges were all together, so I am assuming it is the same organization. Any help on this subject would be great, as well as any specific info on this badge and the maker.I am very grateful for any of your advice,Thanks,Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted May 4, 2006 Author Share Posted May 4, 2006 the back, with RZM m1/13 maker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNoble Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 The Deutsches Frauenwerk was established in 1933 predating the NS-Frauenschaft by five years. Your M1/13 was made by L. Christian Lauer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 Thanks for the info I just picked up this NS Frauenschaft in Edmonton made by the same maker, M1/13 Christian Lauer. It maintains beautiful enamel and is in great shape I would say. Any comments on it are welcome!Thanks,Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 and here is the reverse, it looks like a good one to me, any opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Party Pin Guy Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 The NS Frauenschaft was a political NSDAP body (one of the "militant" groups), and the Frauenwerk was a more of a civilian volunteer group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURGERHAUS Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Pat Looks like a keeper to me. Nice enamel and correct markings. Congrats to you. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNoble Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Pat,Your NS-Frauenschaft badge is a 1st pattern Staff badge at the Orts (local) level (blue border) and a sweet one it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 Thanks gents I could have picked up the large version as well with the Songbook but alas I was out of money I hope to pick up some more of these as they are a neat badge, but I don't see many of the red versions around. Oh well, it'll pop up one day!Cheers,Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Another make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKelly Posted Monday at 04:28 Share Posted Monday at 04:28 Below are images of genuine NSF badges (The badge with the blue border is for Ortsgruppe / Ortsfrauenschaftsleiterin - a local leader), and an NSF book, published in 1934, which contains a selection of essays concerning the "proper German woman" in thought, word and deed, so to speak. This is one of many books banned by the Allies during the occupation, 1945 - 1949, and purchase, sale, display, distribution or even possession of it was a criminal offense. The first and second images show a National-Sozialistische-Frauenschaft (National Socialist Women's Organization - Frauenschaft properly translates to "womanhood") member's badge. It is hallmarked "Ges.Gesch." which is an abbreviation for gesetzlich geschützt, which translates to "protected by law". Its equivalent in English would be "patent pending". The letters, in stylized Fraktur, are G (Glaube), H (Hoffnung) and L (Liebe), which stand for faith, hope and love. The triangular Frauenschaft badges described above are the 1936 - pattern badges. The 1939 - pattern badges dispensed with the Christian - themed cross and "G H L", instead displaying the more nazified "sonnenrad" and the leben [life] rune. This rune is common on German grave markers, situated next to the decedent's date of birth. Generally, higher leaders' badges also have the heraldic eagle holding the wreath with a mobile swastika in the center, an honor reserved for district, regional and national leaders. Additionally, a border of oak leaves and acorns was added to indicate leadership positions at the highest levels. This would also be the badge of the Deutsche Frauenwerk, established in 1939 as the womens' home-front contribution to the war effort. However, while the Frauenschaft provided oversight to the Deutsche Frauenwerk, members/participants in the Deutsche Frauenwerk were not members of the NS - Frauenschaft based on the similarity of their badges or their collaborative efforts, nor were DF members automatically enrolled in the NSF based on DF membership. Great reference sites: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:N.S.-Frauenschaft-Abzeichen https://gmic.co.uk/topic/23834-frauenschaft-badges/ https://www.militarytrader.com/militaria-collectibles/frauenschaft-the-nazis-womens-league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--dj--Joe Posted Monday at 21:12 Share Posted Monday at 21:12 Very informative and nice items. Here is another good reference link. --dj--Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scowen Posted Tuesday at 04:37 Share Posted Tuesday at 04:37 7 hours ago, --dj--Joe said: Very informative and nice items. Here is another good reference link. --dj--Joe Thank you for digging out that old thread Joe. Almost 20 years old! A lot has changed in that time & new knowledge gained. Unfortunately, the Osang pieces shown in that thread by myself & other members are now known to be a fake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--dj--Joe Posted Tuesday at 15:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:58 Hi Don, life is a learning process until we graduate. 😇 ChrisKelly, what is the mark on the pin plate (on your large Nat.Soz.Frauenschaft ) 144? --dj--Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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