V_Firu Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Dear colleagues, can you help me with your opinion about this medal bar? What medals are missing (especially the 4 Tapferkeitsband and the last 2 Rote Kreuz Band). Your opinion is much appreciated! IMG_9696.heic And here is the reverse:IMG_9697 2.heicIMG_9697 2.heicIMG_9697 2.heic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Can’t see your pictures 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The pics… tony 🍻 42 minutes ago, Stogieman said: Can’t see your pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian1962 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 It's an interesting feature. There were some solutions for it. We could assume that the bar belonged to an (f.e. engineer) officer who startet his career als "Fähnrich" in WW1. He could have owned a "Bronzene" or "Kleine Silberne" Tapferkeitsmedaille (nr. 5 ribbon - there was mounted a small medal or cross), then he received the "Bronzene Militärverdienstmedaille" (nr. 4 ribbon - there was mounted a medal or cross with a crown), then "Militärverdienstkreuz 3. Kl. mit Kriegsdekoration und Schwertern" (nr. 3 ribbon - there was mounted a cross without crown) and then a "Ritterkreuz des Franz Joseph-Ordens" (nr. 2 ribbon - there was mounted a bigger cross without crown suspension). KVK II on nr. 1 ribbon is out of question. The blue one should have been a 25 years service cross, followed by the "Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938" (illegal nazi!). Then red cross "Ehrenzeichen 2. Kl. mit der Kriegsdekoration" (most probably) and on last position a red cross medal. Just one option which would fit. A less likely option would be an officer of medical or veterinarian service. He would have earned a "Goldenes Verdienstkreuz am Bande der Tapferkeitsmedaille" (nr. 5 ribbon), a "Goldenes Verdienstkreuz mit der Krone am Bande der Tapferkeitsmedaille" (nr. 4 ribbon), a "Bronzene Militärverdienstmedaille am Bande des Militärverdienstkreuzes" (nr. 4 ribbon), no idea for nr. 3 ribbon (that makes it less likely), and a "Ritterkreuz des Franz Joseph-Ordens mit der Kriegsdekoration" (nr. 2 ribbon). Regards Christian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V_Firu Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 Thank you Christian1962 for the valuable information you shared and the real detective work to help me identify the missing medals! When I will be able to restore the bar, I will post the "after" pictures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 On 18/02/2024 at 06:27, Christian1962 said: It's an interesting feature. There were some solutions for it. We could assume that the bar belonged to an (f.e. engineer) officer who startet his career als "Fähnrich" in WW1. He could have owned a "Bronzene" or "Kleine Silberne" Tapferkeitsmedaille (nr. 5 ribbon - there was mounted a small medal or cross), then he received the "Bronzene Militärverdienstmedaille" (nr. 4 ribbon - there was mounted a medal or cross with a crown), then "Militärverdienstkreuz 3. Kl. mit Kriegsdekoration und Schwertern" (nr. 3 ribbon - there was mounted a cross without crown) and then a "Ritterkreuz des Franz Joseph-Ordens" (nr. 2 ribbon - there was mounted a bigger cross without crown suspension). KVK II on nr. 1 ribbon is out of question. The blue one should have been a 25 years service cross, followed by the "Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938" (illegal nazi!). Then red cross "Ehrenzeichen 2. Kl. mit der Kriegsdekoration" (most probably) and on last position a red cross medal. Just one option which would fit. A less likely option would be an officer of medical or veterinarian service. He would have earned a "Goldenes Verdienstkreuz am Bande der Tapferkeitsmedaille" (nr. 5 ribbon), a "Goldenes Verdienstkreuz mit der Krone am Bande der Tapferkeitsmedaille" (nr. 4 ribbon), a "Bronzene Militärverdienstmedaille am Bande des Militärverdienstkreuzes" (nr. 4 ribbon), no idea for nr. 3 ribbon (that makes it less likely), and a "Ritterkreuz des Franz Joseph-Ordens mit der Kriegsdekoration" (nr. 2 ribbon). Regards Christian i love it when you do this Christian 🍻 3 hours ago, V_Firu said: Thank you Christian1962 for the valuable information you shared and the real detective work to help me identify the missing medals! When I will be able to restore the bar, I will post the "after" pictures. it will be worth it, it’s a lovely bar 🍻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian1962 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 15 hours ago, V_Firu said: Thank you Christian1962 for the valuable information you shared and the real detective work to help me identify the missing medals! When I will be able to restore the bar, I will post the "after" pictures. You are welcomed. I would be interested to look onto your efforts. Regards Christian 11 hours ago, Farkas said: i love it when you do this Christian 🍻 it will be worth it, it’s a lovely bar 🍻 @tony: I like these kind of challenges. I have studied about 3.000 bios of Austrian interwar officers, in some cases I could find out the owner and give a bar a name. Regards Christian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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