A very rare Set of the Order of Georgi Dimitrov given to a Polish Head of State - Numbered

[Graf]

Hi,

I  just came across of a very rare Set of Order Georgi Dimitrov given to a  Polish Head of State

What is also interesting The Order is numbered to match the number of the Awarding Document

Also for the first time I can see detailed information of the materials

We know that those late orders were made from 14 Carat Gold, however i have never seen a detailed information

Also we know that only the first several hundred were numbered - the first 300 by a machine struck and the next Lot from 301 were hand written

It is for first time an evidence that in late stages the orders were numbered if they were awarded to a very high ranking State people ,like in this case

 

 

[Wat05]

For those who want to know more about the man, he is Henryk Jabłoński, who was the 5th Chairman of the Council of State, which replaced Office of President in 1952. Jabłoński was the Head of State from 1972 to 1985. 

[Graf]

2 hours ago, Wat05 said:

For those who want to know more about the man, he is Henryk Jabłoński, who was the 5th Chairman of the Council of State, which replaced Office of President in 1952. Jabłoński was the Head of State from 1972 to 1985. 

Thanks

[Graf]

Also we know that only the first several hundred were numbered - the first 300 by a machine struck and the next Lot from 301 were hand written  -  It is believed that the second model was from 301 to 1000

The first model was made from 22 Carat Gold and was very heavy - around 70 grams

It came in a square box. It is believed that the boxes are left over from the Royal boxes for Civil Merit for ladies

Interesting, but not proven that after the death of Stalin the first model of the Order was considered as extravaganza and all the left overs were transformed. Instead of destroying them they were sliced  in a way that the front was kept  in 22 carat gold, however a 14 Carat Gold back was soldered .

The second and the third models were made from 14 Carat Gold The third model was not numbered

Examples of the models

[Graf]

A bit more information.

The ring connecting the order to the ribbon and the metal on the ribbon are not made from Gold.

Only the Medal itself is made of Gold

Because the ring connecting the medal to the ribbon is soldered, when the Order is sold on the market it is measured as it is -usually between 33 and 36 grams.. The actual weight of the Order on its own is around 28-29 grams Bear this in mind.

That is the information for the 2nd and 3rd Models.

I have had no chance to measure or hold the fist model. I assume the above information applies to it as well

 

 

[new world]

This is extremely rare and nice set of documents, however medal itself raises some questions. 

1) That number does not look like serial numbers generated at Bulgarian mint.  

2) Number is too high for stamped and hand inscribed numbers

3) Award was given in 1978 - by this time they stopped putting serial number on awards. 

4) Award box obviously does not belong to the award, they had luxury box specially made for high ranking recipients.

 

I can think of couple explanations for this:

1) Serial number was added by Polish to match the numbers in the document for inventory purposes.

2) Number was added by people who try to sell the group to increase its value. 

 

[steveBobby]

I agree with new world's opinion. This number was most likely added by the seller himself, or by the Poles themselves at the time. And 2410 is not the number of the Dimitrov Order, but the decree number used by the Bulgarian State Council when it issued the order to award the medal in 1979. So I don't think the Poles at that time would have added it like this.

Of course, the following is my own speculation：We assume that the seller only received the certificate but not the order. He needs to find a Dimitrov order, but he does not know the numbering history of the Dimitrov order. He mistakenly believes that the decree number on the certificate represents the number of the Dimitrov order, so he made a Dimitrov order with a strange number.

[Graf]

On 18/02/2025 at 23:16, new world said:

This is extremely rare and nice set of documents, however medal itself raises some questions. 

1) That number does not look like serial numbers generated at Bulgarian mint.  

2) Number is too high for stamped and hand inscribed numbers

3) Award was given in 1978 - by this time they stopped putting serial number on awards. 

4) Award box obviously does not belong to the award, they had luxury box specially made for high ranking recipients.

 

I can think of couple explanations for this:

1) Serial number was added by Polish to match the numbers in the document for inventory purposes.

2) Number was added by people who try to sell the group to increase its value. 

 

Possible  Good points The only thing We have to do to trace another similar Set  that is numbered  awarded to a VIP

I have couple of Sets of Hero of Socialist Labour  with similar big Document and together with Order of Georgi Dimitrov not numbered, however they are not to VIPs One is in a luxury box

 

2 hours ago, steveBobby said:

I agree with new world's opinion. This number was most likely added by the seller himself, or by the Poles themselves at the time. And 2410 is not the number of the Dimitrov Order, but the decree number used by the Bulgarian State Council when it issued the order to award the medal in 1979. So I don't think the Poles at that time would have added it like this.

Of course, the following is my own speculation：We assume that the seller only received the certificate but not the order. He needs to find a Dimitrov order, but he does not know the numbering history of the Dimitrov order. He mistakenly believes that the decree number on the certificate represents the number of the Dimitrov order, so he made a Dimitrov order with a strange number.

Good points Worth exploring further