What kinda helmet?

[Chris Boonzaier]

I bought this as Austrian... silly me

It may have originally beenAustrian, but it was obviously worm later as well.

Just the rests of the paint left, the rivets have been replaced, a washer, then an aluminum rivet squashed on both sides instead of a splint...

[Chris Boonzaier]

The top with the stamp..

[Chris Boonzaier]

I assume the liner is a replacement, but period and used, not some collector thing.

Could it be afghan?

There are no holes on the side, but a tiny one up on the front in the middle, I assume for the pin of a badge of some sort.

[Chris Boonzaier]

In the last pic you can see the beaten flat aluminum rivet on the right.

[Daniel Murphy]

Chris,

Probably Bulgarian used from WW1 into the 30's.

Dan Murphy

[Kev in Deva]

I assume the liner is a replacement, but period and used, not some collector thing.

Could it be afghan?

There are no holes on the side, but a tiny one up on the front in the middle, I assume for the pin of a badge of some sort.

Hallo Chris

Any chance of seeing a picture of the hole in the front of the helmet, from what I recall Afgan ones had an insignia on the sides not the front.

Kevin in Deva

Edited June 22, 2006 by Kev in Deva

[JaimeH]

I bought one like that about 20 years ago from Military History magazine, they advertised it as being found in a Spanish warehouse.

[Theodor]

I bought one like that about 20 years ago from Military History magazine, they advertised it as being found in a Spanish warehouse.

Such rivets are unlikely Bulgarian, probably other reissue /Spanish, as was said/. The Bulgarian reissues have domed rivets, seen on Bulgarian M36 and Czech helmets or steel non-removable rivets.

[Chris Boonzaier]

When would the Sapnish have used these? Civil war period?

Did the spanish ever have a badge on the front?

[Kev in Deva]

When would the Sapnish have used these? Civil war period?

Did the spanish ever have a badge on the front?

Hallo Chris, I found this link to Spanish helmet website, might be worth contating the owner maybe he can i.d. your lid IF it is in fact of Spanish origin.

http://www.gostak.demon.co.uk/helmets/spain.htm

He makes this reference with regards a TRUBIA Spanish helmet: "Original issues would NOT have had the clasp for a national insignia welded to the front; that was added at the end of the Civil War after the victory of the fascist Franco.

Just luv the quote from his site: " SPAIN MODELO Z liner.

Most definitely not a German wartime M42 when it has the later, web-cradle liner fitted in 1979, making it actually an M42-79.

Anyone selling these as genuine German M42s on ebay or elsewhere should be prosecuted for deception and fraud. Or stoned in the streets, which ever is the more satisfying."

Kevin

[leigh kitchen]

I have an Irish Vickers lid with similar looking rivets or pins (I'm not suggesting that the helmet portrayed is Irish).

One or two holes at the front? I have a relic lid picked up in Bosnia, it has two small holes & it has been suggested that it is a Serb helmet minus it's attached double headed eagle front badge.

[Kev in Deva]

Chris, here are some "grainy" pictures from a recent German ebay auction of an Irish Vickers helmet similar to the M16.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...p;rd=1&rd=1

The quality of the Vickers helmets steel for the Irish helmet was poor, and do not compare to the German M16 types.

Kevin

[leigh kitchen]

OIt's been painted white for WWII civil defence use - the pwhite paint on mine just flakes off if you look at it, so it's easy to recover the original army green finish if you want to without stripper.

[Chris Boonzaier]

if you want to without stripper.

My lifes philosophy is... there is nothing in life that is more fun doing without a stripper... than with a stripper.

Uhum... can we now see a photo of the good lady in question.....

[leigh kitchen]

My lifes philosophy is... there is nothing in life that is more fun doing without a stripper... than with a stripper.

Uhum... can we now see a photo of the good lady in question.....

I knew what would happen when I typed "stripper" but I went ahead & did it.

She's good at stripping - as in paint & wallpaper when we decorate - officer Zamo of the yard:

Edited February 24, 2007 by leigh kitchen

[Chris Boonzaier]

So... which one should we circle? and why would a woman have that written on her chest? should we show a preference, or is each boob equal in the eyes of god?

Man... this thread is taking a philosophical turn !!!

[leigh kitchen]

Sounds like a game of noughts & crosses.

She's hacked off at the moment 'cos somebody sent her a phone text yesterday - "Don't worry, you're safe - Bernard Matthews is only killing young birds with firm breasts" (for those not fortunate enough to lve in a land where dead turkeys drop from the sky, or would if they could fly that high, this is a reference to the current avian flu turkey cull beng carried out in Britain. Poor little buggeres must think christmas has come early).

Off thread a little?

[Chris Boonzaier]

Off thread a little?

Nah... boobs are always a good break from any militaria conversation....

[leigh kitchen]

Perhaps there's a little subliminal suggestion here - looking at those rivets on the Irish lid..........do they suggest nipples?

[Chris Boonzaier]

To get this back in track after all this time...

What would a decent Irish helmet cost with original paint?

Thanks

Chris

[Kev in Deva]

To get this back in track after all this time...

What would a decent Irish helmet cost with original paint?

Thanks

Chris

I would say in my honest opinion 500 - 700 Euro,

Kevin in Deva.

[leigh kitchen]

Yep, gone are the days of grinding off the badge fittings on cheap old undesirable Vickers helmets, repainting them & selling them as German lids