nesredep Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Hello!Amazing,nice find,Congratulation.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 Thanks guys,i will post some more pic's from the book later.What is so special to me about this book is the complete crewlisting in the back of the book.Eric, i know someone who has a tradition badge given to him by an Atlantis crewman.I will forward your picture to see if there are any similarities.Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Eric, i know someone who has a tradition badge given to him by an Atlantis crewman.I will forward your picture to see if there are any similarities.Regards,Martin.Many thanks, Martin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 Here is an example that came from an Atlantis Crewman.Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Martin,Thanks very much for posting the attributed Atlantis crew badge! Although possessing different details than mine (as well as the one pictured on page 11 of your book), one would expect that handmade items would vary. Although I'll never know for sure whether my badge was made by an Atlantis crewmember, I still feel comfortable with it in my collection.Best Regards,Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 Erik,can you post a picture of the reverse of your badge?Cheers,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Krogh Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Erik,can you post a picture of the reverse of your badge?Cheers,Martin.Here you go, Martin!Best,Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogge16 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hello Martin, I'm so glad you posted this. I didn't know about this book until I came across this thread the other day. Very nice! Congratulations. I started looking for one of these and I actually found one. It's signed by Rogge and looks to be in good shape. Do you know if this book was ever faked? Since I've never seen another one for sale I was wondering what a fair price for one of these would be? Thanks again for showing this. Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hi Luke, since i started this thread i have managed to obtain a signed copy by Rogge that came in a grouping and belonged to his 1st Officer,Erich Kuhn. I am not sure if the book has been "faked" but it has been reprinted several times,even as late as the 1980's i beleive. As to the price on these books,i just do not know for sure,although i have heard of "Rogge signed" copies of the 1st edition going as high as a $1000.00 ? Hope this helps, Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Here is the Erich Kuhn grouping i mentioned in the last post. The picure is taken along with my other copy of the Atlantis book and you see the Rogge dedication from the inside cover of the "Kuhn" book. Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogge16 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 What a wonderful grouping, Martin. You're very lucky. Thanks for showing. Thanks for the info. I'll let you know if I get it. I got burned on an Atlantis photo album recently so I'm being very cautious. Thanks ! Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hi Luke, can you provide images of this Atlantis book you intend to buy ? If you can get photo's from the seller and post them here,perhaps i can be of help.I know of other HK collectors who may also be able to help. Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogge16 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Martin: I went ahead and bought it this morning. Here's the pictures that I have of it. Thanks a lot! Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) It looks great Luke. Definately an original copy from what i can see.The handwriting looks to be that of Rogge's but i cannot quite make out what crewman it is dedicated to. When you get the grouping perhaps you could post more detailed photo's of Rogge's handwriting and i would like to see the contents of the 1960 "Kameradschaft in Kiel" booklet. If it has the complete crewlist in the back of the book then you have what looks to be a good 1st edition. Looks like you have a good group here Regards,Martin. Edited January 15, 2013 by Martin W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Very interesting book Thanks for posting Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 As i mentioned in my first post the "Atlantis" book was primarily photographed,compiled and was printed due to the efforts of the ships A.O Dr. Ulrich Mohr. From what i have learned,Mohr was a very private man in the postwar years and would not sign "anything". A couple of years ago i picked up this signed photo of Mohr and a letter that descibes his reluctance to sign it and send it at the request of the collector. From a fellow HK collector i have been told that this signed image of Mohr is "ultra-rare" ? I tought i would post it here due to the subject of the thread. Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) A similar book was produced for the crewmembers of the Hillfskreuzer Komet I found this old thread i posted way back in regards to the Komet book. Some of the content of this old thread is duplicated here in this Atlantis thread. Regards,Martin. .http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/41801-bookhilfskreuzer-komet/page-2?hl=+hilfskreuzer Edited January 16, 2013 by Martin W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogge16 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Martin: I'll definitely post pictures when I get it. Thanks again for all your help. Awesome Ulrich Mohr signature! I've also heard that his signature is hard to come by. Really nice! Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric JB Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Gentlemen, I just noticed this great old thread, thanks for bringing it back to the top again, I did have look at it with great interest, thanks for showing. Best regards Eric-Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Hi Luke, i will look forward to seeing the the pictures of the book when you receive it. If it is a 1st edition and it contains the complete crewlist,you will see the name of Matr.Alfons.Grzywotz. I am lucky enough to have his HK award. It is a tombak Juncker piece and he scratched his name on the reverse. One of my favorite HK awards along with Erich Kuhn' s HK award,which is also a Juncker. Most of the awards i have seen that came from Atlantis crewmen are made by Juncker. I have seen a Schwerin and a Meybauer badge that came from Atlantis crewmen,but i beleive theae may have been later "private" purchases ? Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogge16 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Thanks for showing this, Martin. You are lucky indeed. WOW! I can't believe all the great stuff that you've posted in this thread. That's a nice signed photo of Rogge. I'm lucky enough to have one like it. Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogge16 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Martin: I received the book today. Here are a few pics, sorry but my camera is junk. No crew list in the back but it is dated 1944. I believe this belonged to Kurt Leube. Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogge16 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 One more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hi Luke, the book looks like an original 2nd edition,with the crewlist omitted. As you mention the photographs are not that great but i certainly make out examples of Rogge's handwriting that i beleive is original. What puzzles me here is that i have two early editions of the Atlantis book with the complete crewlists but there is no "Kurt Leube" mentioned in the crewlists. I have no idea what this man's association is with Atlantis,but i will try to find out. Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSlavick Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Great pick up Luke! The Kameradschafts Treffen handout is simply wonderful. I have seen a few of them covering various years. However this was the first time I've seen one for the 10 year! Martin: "Leube" wasn't a crewman...signatures **for** Leube. He was probably an admirer of the ship or crew and requested the signatures. You'll have occasion to see this practice every-so-often. Luke: If you could post photos of the Kameradschaft booklet pages, that would be great. Those are a great source of information for my biographical archive database. I especially like it when Rogge signs items "Your Old Commander..." Great stuff! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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