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I've seen many examples and cant say I've ever seen this, having said that its long, long before my time so dont have any first hand knowledge. I am not an expert, however I have never seen any with a knoted type rope lanyard. I've only ever seen leather lanyards.

Thanks for posting, what a great and interesting picture and a proud moment to share. I honestly cannot help but wonder what the stories of each and everyone pictures was - how long each served, whether they were involved in any jobs that have made history, when they retired etc etc.

Fantastic achievement in getting a Police LSGC. Not only do they look great but I'm sure it also 'feels' great to get one and must be a very proud moment. When you see names on Police LSGC's you can't help but wonder of the person and the career they had.

Hi all, Hope all is well and enjoying the weather. I have recently been watching an old YouTube video of MOD Police training at the old Medmenham which was filmed probably mid 80's possibly. I am aware this force, as far as Sergeant epaulettes go, have always had the numbers at obviously the bottom of the epaulette, then the sergeant chevrons, then the MDP collar dog at the top of the epaulette nearest the EiiR button. I appreciate they don't seem to wear epaulettes like this now and its all 'sliders', however in this video, a Sergeant can be seen training instructing new recruits and has a what appears to be a small crown above his chevrons. I am not aware of this force using the 'Station Sergeant' rank, two of which come to mind is Port of Felixstowe Police and the Met. Would anyone happen to know what this means as I have never seen it before in picture form and its not in a book of the MOD and former forces book I have. The full clip can be seen on - https://youtu.be/zcfcPPETDZc?feature=shared Another strange one I have seen is on an Ashford Police Training College Youtube video - https://youtu.be/fWqxsiMcMrE?feature=shared which shows a Suffolk Constabulary Sergeant, seconded for training to the PTC with the epaulettes showing Sergeant chevrons at the very bottom, then the number, then the castle at the top whereas its worn number at the bottom, then stripes in the middle, then castle. In all the historical pictures I have seen, I have never seen this at all so just wondered if anyone had any thoughts in regards to this. Thanks all

Still no sign of the Coronation medal in a number of forces. An update on the MOD medal office page says they are still trying to sort it all out in essence, but it does make you wonder when they will arrive. I think some forces have them.

Thanks Dave, I was hoping you would have an input! What a strange picture it is and mysterious badges they use. Very interesting to hear from you they were using the breast badge as per above. I wonder where on earth they got that from!

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/trois-policiers-portant-des-nouveaux-uniformes-news-photo/843728350 Saw this picture and found it interesting. I am aware in the 70s or 80s the Met produced an experimental type breast badge which was the armorial badge, the same as on the warrant card holders, with a flat surface underneath for the epaulette number. According to the translation, these three are Met officers however I have never seen examples of the breast badges they are using, has anyone else? They don't look like the standard Met crest at all

Out of interest, does anyone know the correct way around to wearing them? For example if you had a 2022 Jubilee medal and (soon) a Kings Coronation medal, which ribbon goes nearest your heart and which nearest your shoulder?

Great collection Dave. Is the top left badge the issued cap badge for all ranks and the top right a warrant card holder badge? I assume the bell patch shape is for a wooly pully nato jumper but are the other two coat patches?

Sorry Dave, very late to this, but they look absolutely great and thanks for taking the time and effort to post. I have a keen interest in the overseas territories Police. The way this is all presented is great on the boards. I would dearly love to visit alot of these places and hopefully will one day. They may even offer a ridealong type thing through the IPA! Who knows! Do you have any other collections from SBAP, Jersey etc?

The warrant card holder in one of your posts Dave, is that the early version issued to senior ACPO ranks?

Really great collection of Gibraltar Police items. Do you have any idea if the chief officers wear the yellow metal type OCB or is it a bullion type badge? Its interesting isnt it, have you ever noticed that RGP wear Met Pol style epaulettes with a metal button for show on them? Do you have any other island collections?

Really great pictures and collection. Amazing historical pieces that we would never have otherwise seen. Back in the day, pre-PACE, did the Parks mob lock many people up each year? If there was call for it, did they take on all jobs within the parks or was it all handed over to the Liverpool force?

Awesome looking helmets and interesting that they are from such a small specialist force. Are they used much when around the port for example and do this force do much foot patrol of the docks or have you got to wear a hard-hat? This is your old force isnt it Dave in fact? Those two City caps look absolutely amazing! How great that you can actually trace that cap back to that Commissioner for certain rather than worrying that it might have been cobbled together. What a gem. Did he give you that himself as very interested in the story behind this? Theres pictures on the net of the city commissioner in the early 2000s, cant think of his name, wearing his cap and tunic too and the buttons and insignia look absolutely great. As an interesting aside, theres pictures of Commissioner Mark Bowron in a reflective jacket with his commissioner insignia sewn straight onto the epaulettes of the yellow jackets which is not something I've seen before in this way.

Really lovely caps and pictures. Theres something strange about looking at police caps without the sillitoe tartan (spelling?). Do the Constable/Sergeant version have ventilation holes around the band inside or is that just the way the pic looks? I appreciate that the badges dont have the crown now HK is no longer under 'UK rule' for want of a better term but is the caps any different would you say?

So will emergency services people get it who arent involved in the coronation because they are on leave but DO have five years service get it?

Great pictures and thanks for posting. You almost wouldnt believe it unless seen. The bobby and an enemy soldier, complete polar opposites. Very interested to hear about the Isle of Man harbours police, never knew about this at all. Do you know if IoM still issue one for winter one for summer, the summer being white? theres something which naturally interests you in seeing a white helmet as its hardly something you see much on the mainland.

A fantastic threat, probably one of the best on here with the amount of rare badges so thank you very much. I read somewhere, although it may not be true, that during the 70s and 80s the SPG were issued with a shorter helmet of a more robust construction before the time that such helmets become common place. As in they had an early version of the reinforced helmets when everyone elses where still cork on the inside as such with just a head band. Is this something you have ever heard of Dave? thread sorry not threat* typo

Fantastic collection which must have some of the rarest examples. There cant be many private collections with examples as old as these surely?

cant help unfortunately, but didnt West Mids do something like this too at some point?

Looks absolutely great! Thanks for posting. I'm lucky enough to have already seem some of these which you kindly sent me pictures of by email, however they are a window to the past. Can't be many examples of any of these around. In fact, a couple of them i've only ever seen pictures of, never pictures of the actual metal badge in reality. My main interest is in the later badges and equipment, however this is great. Don't suppose you know which Divisions trialled the breast badge in the 70s or 80s and what made them decide against it? There are some pictures on the net somewhere of an Inspector with the experimental breast badge on his tunic and two little stars above it, worn on the chest rather than the shoulder as per norm.

Its interesting with things like this isnt it because what makes this so good is that we know this is original, not a copy or a helmet of all different bits cobbled together. I really do wonder and would love to know its history, who owned it etc, the hands it passed through and I bet it would have a few stories to tell if it could talk, haha. If only it were like the sorting hat from Harry Potter.

I suppose so. I guess things go wrong sometimes. What is your personal opinion on whether or not they will be issued and the criteria? I think in that press release they more or less said that they will be late, whatever form they will take.

Indeed, it really has to be worn properly with the old thumb on the end of the nose pointing upwards to test it haha. Then again, have you seen some of the most recent generations of the custodian? No actual foam liner, literally just a harness very similiar believe it or not to one in a builders hat if that makes sense. The flat caps are not what they used to be either, not at all unfortunately.

Do you think this could indicate good news or bad news? Behind the scenes, they must have a criteria and how could that criteria be any different than the last Jubilee medal. Heres hoping and praying anyway hahaha.