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This looks like a typical K.A.G. EKI. Except the pin on the back has been twisted out more. Has anyone seen this? I feel it was a personally done by the recipient to accommodate a thick piece of clothing. Like an outer coat or heavy tunic, perhaps even a naval tunic. What are other opinions?

Thanks Claudio. I tried to paste pictures, but I couldn't get them to save/post. The spange is greater than the sum of its parts. A small premium for the medal bar.

Now that it's over...did anyone win this bar? Is it identifiable? http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...em=350207147762

Thanks Erik for falling on these "swords" in order to show us clearly 57er's obverse and reverses. Hope they didn't set you back too much.

Wow. That's cool. Yes, I hope it can be narrowed down. Right now I'm 0-2. About a month ago I remember that Detlev had a group with a medal bar that had two of these identifiers. But that bar had seven awards and came with a small photo of the recipient. It's sketchy, but I believe from L-R it was; EK2, WGMMM, Baden(?) Verdienst, LuK, HK, Wurt.LS(9year?) and a Deutshen Volkspflege medal.

I concur with the freezer advice. The combined cold and dryness is beyond what mother nature trained these little buggers for and they, and their eggs perish. I read an article once about libraries using them for their older books. Some bugs would be resistant to the chemicals and others would retreat from the gas chemicals deeper into the books...but the cold. The DEEP cold finds them. Go to sleep bugs. Go gently into that good night...

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I rescued this bar from a dealer's darkened corner three and half years ago (at no small price). I thought it was a unique combination with 50% of the awards being relatively scarce medals. I've tried, but the stamp on the GMMM ring is unreadable to the camera, but I can see under a loop that it is indeed a "333".

Gentlemen; Thank you all for your comments. I second guessed myself when I called the LHO ribbon the LMMMwS. I just couldn't understand how someone could make the mistake and put a house order (w/sword device) in third position behind the LC. Rick's blind great-grandmother is a good reason, but I'm speculating that as a post-WWI field bar, the "royal Lippe family" award was kicked down the pecking order in favor of the State of Lippe award. Kind of showing more allegiance to his STATE, than to his ruling family. Just a guess... Nonetheless, I really like the bar. (And let me rephrase what I said earlier...when I wrote "reposition" I didn't mean I was going to "re-order" the ribbons. I only meant that I was going to nudge them together so that the ribbons touch and hide the bar beneath.) I understand that the other medals are not uncommon enough to make an easy ID, but with the LHO list nearly ready for publishing, can the gnomes put together a top "hopefuls", list? Rick mentioned the OK rolls. Are the OK in existence that could even be compiled?

Ahhhhh, thank you Iver. so, post-WWI. Great to finally know.

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Here is a little Lippe fieldbar. I haven't tried repositioning the ribbons yet. I have recently learned that the crossed swords on (what appears to be) the Lippe House Order ribbon is in fact the Lippe Military Merit Medal (wS). The ribbons look very similar. That would also explain its position behind the Lippe War Cross, otherwise a LHO4wS would certainly outrank a Lippe MMM. I understand the LHO on a fieldbar would have a wreath device(?). I have not seen one. Does anyone have an example to show... I think it?s a good bar, but I have not put a black light to the threads on the back. Does anyone think I need to? Rick Research: It goes without saying, you can add this bar, and the devices to you growing data base of devices.

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I was rummaging around some old things and found these buttons. I purchased them with a photo many moons ago at a flea market just outside Budapest. Now, if only I could find that large 9x11 photo. Anyway, enjoy and any observations or insights you have are welcome.

Thank you Claudio for showing the bar and for the education. I always like seeing the pieces, but really like to know what to look for, and why this is interesting.

WOW. That bar! With the Brabant in first place no less! No wonder why you want to identify him. I think we would all like to get our hands on that bar. I can't make out #3, is that supose to be the Bav. St. Michael? And #6, is that a Russian St. Anne's?

...and that case is ridiculously big for the badge inside. It's not a very efficient use of space. If this was the Hope diamond I could understand the huge expanse of negative space around it, but this is for "just" a pilot badge. With cases for ALL imperial era pieces, would they be from any country like Germany, France, England, etc., the item inside typically uses the space inside uniformly. It has a more pleasing look to the piece inside and does not distract from it. Can anyone else comment on this? Does anyone know of an example where this principal is not enforced?

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Kudos indeed. I'm glad you could re-unite those elements. I'm sure they will look great together! As for the price you had to pay. Don't blame me, I wasn't bidding against you. I was off chasing roses...