Andreas, do you believe the cross on the bar I initially posted to be an authentic, 1866 award? If you were offered the bar at 6000- Euro, and the photos are the same, and the set is the same, why did you not mention this originally?? If you look carefully at the one piece I posted as an 1866 era piece, you can see that the suspension is distinctly thicker than all the subsequent examples. The second MEZ1 I posted is clearly a later example by Wagner. So where do we stand with this? We have 3 distinct variations per your earlier post. AW W Unmarked Is the unmarked example made by one of these 2 makers? These details would seem to contradict the details published on your site with respects to the GMVKand the MEZ1 having to be identical???????