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Reviving this topic, sometimes the case of the order of the Lion & the Sun is not rectengular and made of red velvet. Does anyone know who the maker was and for which occasions it was used? Thanks an regards, Pieter

Reviving this interesting topic. Here an example of an earlyRising Sun 5th class in a Tamatebako case with red tassels, and an Emperor Meiji signed document to a German engineer. The early lower classes of the Order of the Rising Sun had cases decorated with pauwlonia flowers, with the grade written inside. Later this was limited to the third class upwards. As for the Sacred Treasure, the lower classes in Tamatebako cases, have always had the grade written on the lid. From third class upwards they followed the pattern of the Rising Sun, with the difference that the tassels are purple. By the way, I have never seen a ladies version of the Sacred Treasure in a Tamatebako case. If anyone has a picture os a ladies Sacred Treasure in such a case, I would love to see it. Regards, Pieter

Hello No one, thank you very much for your quick answer. So most likely a souvernir medal from the Meiji Shrine in Tokyo. Best regards, Pieter

Hi Forum members, Can anyone identtify this Japanese medal? It looks like some unoffial commemorative medal to me. The ancient Japanese characters are a bit difficult to read. The observe has a portrait of Emperor Meiji at older age, and the reverse ,according to me, Ise Jingu. Many thanks and regards, Pieter Here a better picture of the reverse

Hi Mgrandillo, I have another question on Bolivar, that you may answer. In 1813 Simon Bolivar established the Orden de los Liberatores de Venezuela, as an award to those who devoted themselves to the independence war for Venezuela. As far as I know, the order consisted of a sevenstar medal with in the center the inscription Liberator de Venezueala, and on the reverse the name of the recipient. I suppose this medal is very rare; do you perhaps know about how many were awarded by Simon Bolivar? Many thanks an best regards, Pieter

Hi Mgranadillo, thank you for your explanation on the background of the model of the Bust of Bolivar, that accompanied the award document I have. How did the 1880 version of the medal of the Bust of Bolivar look like? The present order has several classes, and I'm not aware it has also a medal. By the way, the Jules Verne museum in Nantes (France) has also a similar document as I have. Apparently president Guzman Blanco was a fan of Jules Verne's books and awarded him the medal when he was in France. I don't know if the medal is also there. Best regards, Pieter

sorry, made a mistake; the total bronze BWM's issued was 110,000. Unfortunately, I don't know how many went to the E.L.C. Pieter

Hello Herman, it stands for the Egyptian Labour Corps. About 110,000 BWM's were issued to the E.L.C. Regards, Pieter

Recently could buy a first type Grand Cross set, awarded in 1953 by president Juan Peron to an European Foreign Minister. Came in case and together with the award document, signed by Peron

Hi Simius Rex, thank you for your comments. The cannister could indeed have been used for storing maps, small ones as the tube is not that large. I think to store a promotion document is still a realistic possibility, as I wrote before, it was done in Europe, the most famous ones, being of course the Marshall batons. Whatever its use was, it is a nice looking object. Regards, Pieter

Hi Hugh, thanks for your reaction. A courier device for messages sounds very pausible. I initially thought of rank, because before in Europe, general officers sometimes carried a baton with their letter of appointment rolled up in the baton. The initials US on the top of the baton made me conclude it is American, but of course I can be wrong. Regards, Pieter

Does any of our Amrican friends know what this American baton was used for? It is made of copper, the tube part is about 32 cm long with a diameter of 3cm. The ends can be removed and the inside is hollow. The baton is adorned by six eagles at the top and three at the bottom. My guess is that it was used as a militay baton, but for which purpose? If anyoone can give me more information, I will be grateful, this baton has been in my cupboard already for many years. Regards, Pieter

Reviving an old thread. I recently could buy a Mentana cross awarded to the French 1st Line Infantery Battalion, with the soldier nr. 1691. Have indeed up to now only seen numbers in the 2000 range. The French 1st Inf. Batt. at the battle of Mentana consisted of 400 men. Regards, Pieter

Hoi Marcon1, thank you, it's easier to read this way. Groet, Pieter

For those interested in the DSO, I recently bought a Victorian DSO document awarded in January 1899 to Captain McLoughlin of the Army Medical Corps. Thanks to a member of the BMF I learned that he received the DSO fo services during operations in Uganda 1897-98. For some reason, I cannot get one picture upward. Regards, Pieter

Hi vPerlet, As you can see in the picture you provided, I think you have the ribbons wrong. The Order of Liberation has a yellow ribbon with red stripes, 1,2 or 3 according to class. The Order of August One has a red ribbon with yeloy stripes, 1,2 or 3 according to class. here is the Order of August One, third class, so with a red ribbon with three yellow stripes. regards, Pieter sorry, picture of the wrong case,here the correct one

The reason I ask, because I have all three classes of the Order of Liberation in my collection, and am of course curious to know how many of the first class were issued. Here some pictures, bear with me, As you can see, the first class case contains the ribbon bar of the first class of the order of August One. This could mean the receipient also had this order and mixed up the ribbons. Unfortunately, of the Augut One order I have only the thrid class

Hi All, in September 1955, the Standing Committee of the PRC instituted three orders; the Order of August One, The Order of Independence and Freedom, and the Order of Liberation, all in three classes. After 1957 these orders were no longer awarded. I wonder if it is known how many of these orders were awarded. Wikipedia gives the follwing numbers for the first class; August One order; 47 Order of Independence; 196 odre of Liberation; 421 At another source I read for the first class respectively; 171, 307 and 983. That is quite a difference, so I wonder if any of you has the correct numbers for the first class of these three orders. Thanks and regards, Pieter

Here an example of an award document to Assistant Doctor Dr. Eugen Fliegel of the Iron Cross 1870 for non combatants. It reads das Eiserne Kreuz zweiter Klasse am weissen Bande mit schwarzer Einfassung. Issued by the King in 1873. And here a document for a non combatant Iron cross 1914, issued by the Royal Prussian Orders Commission in 1918

Hi Herman, thanks for your comment, it could very well be a marching medal. The set was made up by Van Wielik in The Hague and they used a ribbon that is similar to the Luxembug marching medal. Interesting story of the NordBat 2. From it I found out that BA 03 on the medal means 3d Battallion. Will try to search for a list of Dutch military that were attached to NordBat 2, perhaps that can shed more light on the medal. Regards, Pieter

I have a Dutch medal set for service in former Yougoslavia, with the Dutch medal for UN Peace operations, the UN medal UNPROFOR, and a Swedisch medal from Nordbat 2. I have no idea what this last medal was given for, but I suspect it is unofficial. The obverse has the map of Yougoslavia with the words NORDBAT 2 and BA03, the reverse is plain. If someone has more information on this medal, I will be grateful to receive it. regards, Pieter

Hi Marcon, thank you for the link. However, this is the Peruvian version of the medal, that was instituted by the government of Peru in 1825, after their independence. Fortunately, there is more information and are more pictures available of this Peru medal. The Venezuelan version, instituted in 1854, has the same name, but has a different design as can been seen in the picture I added. It is also much rarer, and I have never seen one on the market. In the Morton & Eden auction of the collection of the American Numismatic Society, only the Peru version was offered. But anyway thanks for your reaction and with best regards, Pieter

Recently I bought the shown award document for the Medalla del Busto del Liberator Simon Bolivar, issued by the President of Venezuela in 1880. It is made of vellin and awarded to a frenchman. This medal was instituted by the President of Venezuela in March 1854, and was abolished by the establishment of the Order of the Liberator in Sept 1880. The only pictures I could find of this medal is the one I show here. The site Condecorationes Venezuela mentions the medal, but only shows the reverse. If any member has better pictures of this medal, or perhaps even owns one, I would be very grateful to get clear pictures, to accompany the award document. Thanks and regards, Pieter

Was informed on another forum about a publication in which all awards and investitures by King Edward VIII are listed. Have ordered this in the meantime. Pieter

Dear Great Britain Forum members, recently, I bought an award document for the KCB, signed by King Edward VIII in June 1936. Unfortunately it had been framed and displayed, so the signatures have faded somewhat, but are still clearly legible, and for the rest the document is in a good state. I wonder how many Orders (not only of the Order of The Bath) were awarded during the reign of King Edward VIII, bearing his signature. Undoubtedly, the Chancery of British Orders will have a list of all names, but probably not grouped according to reign. If some fellow forum member has some information on the numbers, I will be very happy to hear it. As the King reigned less than a year, I suppose not so many Orders were issued. Thanks in advance and stay safe, Pieter