Triadoro
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Triadoro replied to Nick's topic in The Future of GMIC's Discussion Topics
Since the deletion of inactive accounts began, Rick Lundstrom's threads and posts can no longer be found using the Search Function... even by typing-in Guest Rick Research. Several of his photos have simply vanished. Some links to his galleries lead to non-existent pages. It's ironic that in an effort to improve the forum, valuable and highly educational posts of one of the forum's most important contributors can now be accessed with the same level of ease as searching for a needle in a haystack, or accessed not at all. -
Hi and thank you kindly for this identification! I started this thread 10 years ago and completely forgot that I had this bar in my collection. Your memory is amazing... certainly better than mine! The funny thing about this is, that I encountered Kiesewetter's name and awards on page 188 of the 1932 Ranklist one week ago. I even wrote down his name. I remember saying to myself "too bad he has a bravery medal." I was looking for another combination of awards that included an Iron Cross and a SEHO Knight but didn't have a Hessen Tapferkeitsmedaille. Clearly, multi-tasking is not one of my strong suits. Thank you again for this ID !! Regards.
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I have always believed that complete medal bars tell fascinating stories about military careers and experiences of real soldiers. This is why I favor collecting medal bars over individual medals and orders. It takes a person with your insight and expertise to makes some of these possible scenarios come to life.
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I now have the medal bar in my hands. I was able to examine it and photograph it. It is my opinion that there is no evidence to suggest that this bar has been manipulated. The stitching, the thread, the backing look good. The SEHO is sewn into place. The others are hung on hooks behind the ribbons. I could not pass-up buying it. I got it for much less than the SEHO3b alone is worth!
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It is likely that he might have received it because of who his family was and/or who he knew ... not what he did. There are two K.u.K awards that were notorious for being given to the "Who they knew" group... the nobility, the gentry, i.e. the people from the right families. These were the Order of the Iron Crown and the Order of Franz Josef. (The Iron Crown Order could only be given to persons of noble ancestry.) To those who have knowledge about the Saxon house orders I ask: Is it possible that the SEHO might have been awarded in this way on some occasions?
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Received a picture of the back. He plans to eventually list it and some other medals on Ebay. Will ask for further pictures.
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I will try to get more pictures from the seller and post them. He did mention that the medals were suspended from black metal spring-hooks.
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And a picture of the back...
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The bar is 100% original and untouched, but it is puzzling to me that there are no swords on this brave soldiers SEHO3b especially in light of the Hesse "Tapferkeit" medal that is present. Comments?
