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You can see the difference on the last picture where I have included The Unusual Variation of the 4-th Class of the Princely Issue with the crown, The Standard, French made, Princely issue of the 4th Class and the King Boris III issue of the 4-th Class. Regards Graf

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Reverse view Graf

The other Order -it looks like to be from French Maker It came with French Legion of Honour Officer Ribbon with rosette The cross is 35 mm wide and 4.5 mm thick It appears to be 4-th Class of The second Model 1887 - however it has a crown, which looks like the crowns made by French makers for exported foreign orders. Usually this Class comes without crown Hi, I added recently to my collection Princely Issue of the 4-th Class of the Order of St Alexander -French made and marked with a "boar head" for silver on the ring. The Stamdard Princely issue of the 4-th Class is 38 mm wide and although it is thicker than the Austrian and German made crosses it is still thinner compared to the Unusual Variation -also, French made ( the typical "F" letter on the February on the reverse medallion) Now I can give you more updated pictures with the Unusual Variation of this class with a crown compared to the other Crosses. You can see the difference especially on the last picture where I have included The Unusual Variation of the 4-th Class of the Princely Issue with the crown, The Standard, French made, Princely issue of the 4th Class and the of the Kings Boris III issue pf the 4-th Class. Regards Graf

This is the reverse view of the Star. Diameter is 110 mm Weight 108 grams Graf

Hi, I would like to start new topic regarding this New Reproduction of the First Empire Grand Cross Star. I did not list it in the ongoing topic regarding the First Empire LOH, since I did not feel it belongs there. This Star appeared on EBay France not long ago. The Dealer claimed that it came from a recent French movie set. He sold few Stars, not only LOH, on very reasonable prices. Since then I have seen this Star to be sold for as much as 1600 EURO on EBay France, and for around US$ 800 on EBay USA. Currently is for sale/auction on EBay France with starting price 525 EURO. Any idea about the origin of this Star and what could be the collector"s and market value. Regards Graf

Hi 922F, Thank you for the information I can help with an Officer Class picture Regards Graf

Hi 922F, Thank you for the information I can help with an Officer Class picture Regards Graf

Hi 922F, Thank you for the information I can help with an Officer Class picture Regards Graf

Hi, Interesting topic. I think I have a picture of 3-rd Class LOH miniature -as described by Veteran Regards Graf

Hi Bison, Thank you for the pictures. and the information. These are exactly some of the marks on my LOHs I do not know whether the differenf marks indiciate different period of making Most of the 2-nd Empire LOH have the mark on the first picture, while those ones from 3-rd Republic have the marks from the second picture with the star above the letters. I am just making a wild gess. I will contact Guy re: the book Regards Graf

Hi VC89, Yes, as Uwe stated the LII with swords above the cross and under the crown is real, however not official award. It was made with anticipation that the LII wil follow partially the Leopold1 Order and a Military division will be introduced. It never happened. Regarding the picture of The LII withouth the ribbon --sorry the swords on top of the ribbon ring are not permanently attached I just clipped them to the ring. I keep it this way not to lose the swords till I find a nice Officer ribbon I bought the Cross with a wrong ribbon. I bought it because I have never seen before such gigantic crown on LII Knight or Officer. I try to collect unusual or rare pieces of L1 and LII. Regards Graf

Hi Bison, Thank you for your expert information. Now it is much more clear to me who is who It also explains that quite a few LOH made during the Second Empire and Thirt Republic were made by Victor Lemoine. I have few LOH from these two periods presumably made by V.Lemoine The maker;s marks, although slightly different in shape, have V.L. with a crown on top Do you have any data base with pictures of the Victor Lemoine marks Can you recommend any book or site, which I can use as reference for makers marks Kind Regards Graf

Hello Jef, Thank you for the reply, Yes I am looking for the Sash for Leopold II, because it is more difficult to get, however i am also looking for a Sash for Leopold I The Leopold 1 Sash on the site of Ribbonshop. International is very nice, however they use, although very good quality, new sintetic materials See, I have Grand Officers of both leopold 1 and Leopold 2 and both without Sashes. Perhaps you are better off that you do not use EBay ..it is a good site for bargains however thre are a lot of fakes, therefore you have to be extremly careful Regards Graf

This is the Reverse View of the Orders If you are interested in any of them I will take a very close view of the Order(s) Regards Graf

Dear Members, Here i am listing the all Emmissions of the Officer Class of Bulgaria Order for Civil Merit It took me a good time to collect them, especially the 1937 King Boris III Emmission with the flat back center Regards Graf

Dear Members I am starting a new topic for this nice Bulgarian Order Here are three Variations of the 4-th Class 2-nd Grade of the Order First Ferdinand Emmission 1887-1914 First Variation is the Standard Order with Swords Second one is the so called "Doctors" Variation without swords It is also slightly smaller and slimmer than the Standard Order Third one is an interesting Variation- with Bourbon Lilly on the top of the cross. It is sligthly bigger then the Standsrd Order and also the enamel is darker. It has also a haractheristic serrated silver edges of the cross It is believed that it was the first Bravery Order given by the new Prince to the officers in the Serbian-Bulgarian War. Regards Graf

Hi Jef, Thank you for the reply , I just listed the link. Please, clik on it and it will get you to the Item of interest Regards Graf

Hi Larry, Thank you for the mail This is the link http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/Prachtige-nieuwe-sjerp-Orde-Leopold-1-grootlint-Belgie-/261008821156?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_123&hash=item3cc5568ba4 Regards Graf

Hi Jef, Yes, I agree with you It is twice more then other Ribbon dealers's prices Perhaps i will put on hold for the moment What is your opinion about the Leopold 1 Sash on EBay.be (Belgium) Is it the same as the Ribbonshop.international or better? The pictures are not quite clear Regards Graf

Hi Jef, I forgot to write the prices of Fibru Firm Sash -200 EURO Officer Ribbon 20 EURO Postage ? to be confirmed Regards Graf

Hello Jef, Thank you I know this site I also bought from them long time ago It was OK I ask them before my post on the Forum. They cannot make Leopold II Sash. They have Leopold I Sash By the way at the moment on EBay.be there is a Sash of Leopold 1 on Auction I have seen this Saller to auction this Sash before Is it better than the one from the ribbonshop site or is the same one. Regards Graf

Hi Jef, I contacted Fibru Firm. They responded that they can suply the Sash and the ribbons Their prices are a little bit high.....however I will consider Thank yoy for the site Regards Graf

Hi Kay, Do not worry, People like you will fill the holes one at the time,,however it can take another 130 years....but no rush Regards Graf

Hi New World, Thank you for the information. In my opinion this is one of the best Bulgarian Post WW2 Decorations Graf