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Hi Ilieff, It is still there go to ebay.de then search Bulgarien in Sammeln und Selten Section then Militaria - 1871-1914 Best

Hi 922F, Thank you for the information It helps to solve the burning question about the time of those items production Such thing happened with the left overs of other Orders and Decoration makers Even the original matrixs have been sold as well Then the new owners need skillful jewelers to get the desired results Unfortunately, such items have been presented as"Original" and many new collectors with some good initial budget get stung I have been following this seller for a while and i suspect he has on his dispose a handsome quantity of left overs or more over he has bee involved in selling items that could be made by using old matrixs Most of his items were rare and unusual in nature For this particular Set of St Alexander mine main question is why if it is Original and made in the early 1900 the swords are wrong Rothe was very strict with his Orders especially if this set is the highest Class Also the different condition of the Star and the Cross The Cross is very worn while the Star is nearly mint..plus the other issues I mentioned earlier.

Hi Utopis, Your remarks are correct That was my point i suspect late production even recent one using spare or left over parts This seller has listed recently very rare Sets of different order from Europe mainly Austrian made ones with very similar features They are usually listed on ebay Germany for a very short time Auction style The auctions are private No PayPal accepted No returns Some Set have been sold on very good price Well bellow wht you expect for such rare period items It does not make sense to me

Hi, The seller who sold the Luxury St Alexander Star pictured in #66 and #67 has listed even rare Grand Cross Set with swords in the middle. According to some sources only 5 of those sets were ever awarded, yet this luxury Set appear on the market for sale less then two months after the sale of the other Star I have few reservation regarding this Set 1 The Cross looks much more worn comparing to the Star 2 The Star has few, in my opinion problems - residual glue on the central medallion, The swords look are added later on because they are cut off and attached to the body of the Star with prongs/pins Usually the swords go through the central medallion I cannot see how they are attached to the Cross. When you look the bottom parts of the swords especially the one on the right it looks like the cut off edge is very fresh It is not typical for a luxury Grand Cross Star to have those problems Compare with the other Luxury Star with the Swords above That was is called a luxury finish I do not mind the fact that the swords are not the standard shape as we have seen few stars and crosses with slightly different shapes i have in my collection grand Cross Star with different shape ( from German States Order used by Godet), however the swords are correctly assembled (picture provided) When i look the marks on the pin of the new Star something is bothering me, however i am not sure what I might be wrong however i will not bid on this Set BTW it is on Ebay.de ( Germany) I will be invite you for your comments

Hi Anna_M The Order is OK and very nice I agree that it is the Louis XVI period It was a common practice to use Orders from one period with parts from the next one Sometimes old Crosses were adapted to the new period The existence of different crosses is due to different makers Some crosses are marked for Gold some are not Here are three Orders from LouisXVI , LouisXVIII and the July Monarchy period (Cross adapted by removing the Loius XVIII Model lilies between the arms Best Graf

Hi Ilieff, Thanks for the additional information That were my poiints 1, Early Prince Ferdinand period 2. Austrian - all high classes Austrian made Stars has this diamond cut and shape 3. Not 100% whether 1st or 2nd Class The size leans toward 1st Class Also the Luxury type suggests that is more likely made by order by someone or for someone of importance The luck of second ring is not so important. Only could be speculated that the Star could be a second Class and the maker did not have a small luxury size Star for this occasion 4. Because it is not marked, however only from two pictures front and back it can be speculated that could be marks/s somewhere only close inspection can tell us If not marked could be contributed to any of the Austrian makers at that time. 5. Anyway such Stars do not come very often on the market and if new World managed to get it Congrats. Graf

Hi New World, Then Enjoy it Congrats Yes it is typical Austrian type Notice the Swords they are mounted upside down..and the second ring The first Star is typical French Similar sold by JK Militaria Best Graf

Hi New World, I saw this Star on eBay Germany i t was sold for a good price. The body of the Star is Austrian type Typical for the Austrian Orders The size is mystery, because the features are for the 2nd Class because has only single ring around the central part of the medallion However I have seen 1st Class of the early prince Ferdinand Stars with only one ring This Star is not the Standard one and very likely was made by Order, hence the unusual features The other, unlikely option is the central medallion to be attached in a later stage to the body of the Star. This dealer from Austria has sold many rare items, however i have seen few unusual ones as well That does not mean foul play at all Did you buy the Star is so when the Star arrives inspect it carefully, although it looks OK for me

Hi 922F Thank you for the comments The mark is ta eagle head -French mark for Gold I recently missed out on another rare miniature It was sold recently The price went well above what i expected It took me by surprise It is a pity because i have the full size Badge in a box Hi Jovanmara i do not have Facebook account For me Facebook is a spying on its members very badly and i suspended my account Sorry. i will find other way to contact you

Hi Jovanmara, If the those red cross badges are from your collection then Congratulations. The Queen Eleonora badges are very nice -also the 1st Class Star is a very rare and desirable I am still looking for one There is a dealer who has 2 of them however i am not prepared to pay the price he demands -over 3500 US$ Here is my collection of this Order - plus the miniature in Gold (French made) My information is that the 1st Class was given in two separate boxes -One for the Star the other one for the neck cross/badge

My latest addition for the early model red Cross badges with open design The small one on the left with the ribbon

As i said from what i can see from the picture You can see better the details in the central medallion. St George is quite possible and right It is another possible Decoration- the swords could indicate Military Academic Society

Hi Iliev, Very interesting photo Yes, this Order is a very interesting as well It is unknown to me The central medallion resembles, for wht i can see the one of the Madara Horseman However the rest is no close to the design of this Order. apart from the swords of the post 1990 Model Could be an Order of the Ministry of Defense ??!! Yes only collectors of the very modern Bulgarian Orders might help

It is a very sad news The Collector's World lost a significant scholar, author and collector. His work has been used as a main reference by collectors from all around the world - and in my humble opinion will be used many years to come I can add my sincerest condolences to the Pavlov family and friends during this difficult time, Our hearts and prayers are with them. New World you are lucky to have the books signed by Prof. Pavlov Treasure them Graf

Hi New World, I agree with you the Star is OK only the swords are questionable Close examination can help however every collector has to make their own mind whether to have such item in their collection Only the awarded person or/and the few later owners of the Star will know the answer Who knows? Original swords are usually attached with a rivet or a nut I also have seen original swords attached in a wrong way Do we have to reject the Star or take it as maker mistake or the swords came off and re-attached wrong way Anyway the Star on eBay Germany has to be looked with a question in mind.

I saw this Star on eBay Germany The seller is claiming that it is Rothe Here is the back of the Star I cannot see clear Rothe marking For me the marking on the pin looks more like "800' for silver Many times the sellers just make a claims to make the item more saleable I am more inclined th think it is German made if there are no any clear makers marking The Star looks OK to me It is not unusual some of the makers to use parts from other Orders or the awarded person requested the Star to be modified. It is very difficult to say whether this was done at a later stage for a better profit, although this is also possibility The patina is the same. As one of the members suggested a very close look with magnification will be very useful The way the swords are attached is very important I have few items in my collection that look odd, however I accepted them because i could not find any signs for a later modifications or/and "upgrades" Here is the back of the Star from eBay Germany and also some of my items One is also St Alex Star It is French type, however the swords were from a German States Order commonly used by Godet I did buy that Star in Germany from a reputable dealer few years ago. The other is French made Knight of St Alex and a third is the mini of the Bravery Order by Godet This seller on eBay Germany is also selling a Commander of the Order of Military Merit The Order is OK with only one problem -the back central medallion is missing and is replaced with a bronze disk with a name This is questionable The Price 200+ Euro suggests that not serious buyers kept away from it Graf

Ni New World, You are correct You presented this Star in Post 133 and we discussed it The same Star offered again on the market Cheers Graf

Hi, One more Suspect on eBay Germany We discussed those Stars in the past The seller from Ukraine claims it is 100% Original Silver 10 mm wide Here is the New Suspect I do not like many of the features at all Your comments Graf

Hi Andy, Thank you for the additional information

Hi New World The Star from posts 202 and 203 is for sale again on eBay as "100% Original' Asking Price 850$

Hi Ilieff, Here is another Award with Bulgarian Crown

Hi It is nicely worn Godet EK2 It is not very common, however can be found from time to time Here is mine, together with the Godet EK1 marked G on the pin...... plus the Godet with the hooks on the back

I suppose this is the right price for anyone who collects modern Models In 50 years time could be quite collectable.by any standards

Hi New World, What is the asking price? Yes It seems the interest for the new 'revived" Tzar's Awards is very low I personally would not be interested, although i have quite a few Communist Awards One has to draw a line of the scope of his/her collection.

Hi, I have seen this star on Auction not long ago Interesting is that the engraving looks similar to the one on the back of the Military Order Star discussed in Fake Bulgarian Orders -Posts 133-135 It is possible to be inventory numbers, however we only can speculate....or added later on for better profit Similar scenario we have with the German Iron Crosses if engraved they attract better price.Hence the temptation for later engraving