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Hello Sascha, thanks a lot for your input. Especially for your corrections.You see it again and again... ...both sources are wrong I need primary sources. Thanks again Karsten

Sorry, sorry for my mistake. You´re right those men received the silberne Karl Friedrich-Militärverdienstmedaille. So I was not well-rested this morning. Sorry for that. Best wishes Karsten

No, the most were for 1908 and three for 1910 There are also 15 who received their "badener" in 1905: Feldwebel Zydek Feldwebel Mayer Unteroffizier Luppke Unteroffizier Kupper Unteroffizier Benz Unteroffizier/ Trompeter Ockert Gefreiter Schaub Gefreiter Schüßler Gefreiter Wäldin Gefreiter Apfelbacher Gefreiter Birsner Reiter Kaltenbach Reiter Löffler Reiter Sutter Reiter Liebe I couldn´t also find no award in 1904 Best wishes Karsten

That´s true. But I have never seen any medal bar or photo with a "Friedrich II Version" by now. For example Hans Bruckner. He received his MEZ2 in 1907 (AKO 25th. november 1907). So from experience he should have received his "badener" award in 1908 or 1909. Unfortunately is the quality not so good but in my opinion he´s wearing the "Friedrich I -Version". All colonial bars with baden connection which I have seen shows the "Friedrich I -Version". So I´m not sure if there were awarded some "badener" with the "Friedrich II - Version" for GSWA ?? Maybe someone can prove the opposite? By the way Bruckner is wearing his medals incorrectly, except the "badener" Best wishes Karsten

Excellent medal bar Thanks for showing it. Here they are Intendanturdiätar Rayß Unterzahlmeister Gressenich Unterzahlmeister Miehe Unterzahlmeister Hahn Wachtmeister Leis Vizewachtmeister Spieske Unteroffizier Bock Unteroffizier Rappenecker Gefreiter Beer Gefreiter Zuber Magazinaufseher Kraemer Feldbäcker Keck Unteroffizier Staudinger Unteroffizier Binder And in 1910 were also 3 awards for GSWA 1910 Magazinaufseher Deichelbohrer Gefreiter Jegle Gefreiter Ihle Best wishes Karsten

Hello, this could also be a possibility. In my opinion he looks very french but no idea if he´s french. May be some uniform-experts could say something? Best wishes Karsten

Hello Veteran, thanks a lot for your comment. I thought he could be a legionnaire, because the photo came from a german photo album and the photo was taken in Würzburg (Bavaria).... ....far away from France. But interesting to read that it could be also a campaign medal for Italy or China/Mexico. Pity that there is no unique solution. Best wishes Karsten

At first thanks to all for your kindly words. @christerd Sure, may be I should send you a scan with a higher solution? @turtle Unfortunately not. No more entries in "Deutsches Kolonialblatt" between 1900 - 1918. Best wishes and thanks again Karsten

Hello at all, in a german photo album I find this interesting photo. In that album were also some photos from Russia but the most photos came from the territory Bavaria. Could this guy be a foreign legionnaire?? In my opinion he´s wearing: médaille militaire (Modèle du 2nd Empire 1852 - 1870 ?) Crimea Medal ?? (near the ribbon ring, you can recognize some stripes!) Could he really be a high decorated Crimea veteran?? Best wishes Karsten P.S.: The photo was taken in Würzburg

Hello at all, today I like to present an interesting estate of a Red-cross-sister who received the "Hindenburgkreuz" in 1937. Mrs. Stüven served in German-Eastafrica during the World War 1 Unfortunately it´s unknown when she came in captivity... ...if she came in captivity. I only know that she reached (with the steamer "Feldmarschall") Rotterdam on 26th february 1919.... ...together with Lettow-Vorbeck and his last Eastafrica-fighters! Mrs. Stüven received the red-cross-medal 3rd and 2nd class. Both signed by "Major Keil" (Kommando der Schutztruppen im Reichskolonialamt) and the "Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer". Hope you like also this nice estate of a female front-fighter Best wishes Karsten

Nice thread I think it´s the right place for posting my doc of the famous Seesoldat Richard Horn... ...one of the defenders of Peking! Best wishes Karsten

Thanks a lot for the info. Sadly to see that he died in one of the first battles of WW1. Best wishes Karsten

Hello, nearly one year ago I acquired the correspondence-estate of Hptm. Eymael. This correspondence-estate of Hptm. Eymael was so important for me because I own a photo of him. So I wanted to know more about him and his service in Cameroon, Fernando Poo and Zaragoza/ Spain. In a letter I could find the following interesting entry. It tells shortly about the destiny of one of his lieutenants. Thereby you can imagine that the colonial service was a hard job. Hptm. Eymael wrote: "One of my lieutenants had a nervous breakdown and has to travel back to Germany after a service of 2 and a half month." But who was this lieutenant? In the rank list of 1913 I could find only one lieutenant. It was lieutenant Zobel. Seems to be him but I looked up also in DKB and found there the following entries. -Lt. Zobel was transferred to the "Schutztruppe" on 6th April 1912. -His departure was on 10th April 1912. and the last entry was his retirement of the Schutztruppe!! -On 31st october 1912 Lt. Zobel retired from the Schutztruppe in order to transfer into Württemberg Services. Now I´m sure that it was Lt. Zobel, who had a nervous breakdown. It´s interesting to see for what could be stand a short time of service. In the rank list of 1913 (also 1914) we can find Lt. Zobel in the württemb. Inf.-Regt. No. 120. BUT..... .....but what happened with Lt. Zobel? Did he survive the World War One?? Best wishes Karsten

That´s true. Maybe I can research the missing chapter one day. Best wishes Karsten

In 1903 of "DKB" (Deutsches Kolonialblatt) I could find this entry. So something must be happen during his vacation in Germany (between october 1903 and May 1904) . He never returned to German-Eastafrica. Best wishes Karsten

Hello and thanks a lot for your infos and sources. According to MVB (Marine-Verordnungsblätter) the portuguese order was awarded in 1899 ( 18th september 1899 ) Is it possible to find out if he received the fighter or non-fighter version of both commemorative medals? In 1902 he was "leit. Zahlm. d. Zahlm. Sekt" of the 1st Werftdivision in Kiel. So I would prefer a china-steel-medal. Thanks a lot Best wishes Karsten

Hello, now I will present you one of my research successes. Normally it is impossilbe to identify such a photo without a bar. But in this case it was possible Which sources I needed? For a fast research I have used: "Geschichte der kaiserlichen Schutztruppe für Deutsch-Ostafrika" by Nigmann, Ernst. There are all officers and medical officers listed. And the only thing I had to do was to look up for an "Oberleutnant" of the kaiserliche Schutztruppe in GEA whose earlier troop unit was the Inf.-Regt. No. 75. Bingo, there was only one possibility. Oblt. Alfred von Müller who served in GEA from 2nd May 1902 to 29th May 1904. In the "Rangliste" of 1905 and "DKB" of 1904 I could only find out that he´s retired, but why? Normally is there a statement, like: transfered to .... or left the army for a civilian career. But in this case NOTHING After rereading this thread: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/58956-the-face-of-disgrace-hauptmann-polst-cashiered/ It seems, we have another example of "The Face Of Disgrace" Best wishes Karsten

Hello, today I will present you my newest item. It´s Marine-Stabszahlmeister Emil Wachsmann. He entered the navy on 30.april 1863. He had a nice medal bar: RAO4 KO4 1870/71 steel medal on the non-combatants ribbon 1864 (not often to see on naval bars!) war medal for fighters or non-fighters (?) China-medal for fighters or non-fighters (?) Centenary medal PBd´A3 Not often seen a german medal bar with a portuguese decoration. I hope you like it, also. Best wishes Karsten

Thanks a lot for your help. Especially to Andy. Now I could find out that Mutschall served as a "Feldlazarett-Inspektor" in "Lazareth-Reservedepot" of the OEK. I can imagine that all of you invest many hours and money to get that knowledge for research work. I´m still working for my personally research data base By now I´m writing down all the important informations from DKB (Deutsches Kolonialblatt) and have finished those volumes (1900-1903) of the MWB (Militär-Wochenblatt) which are important for the boxer-rebellion. Sure those are only secondary sources and not complete ....but I´m still working to receive those primary sources for my research work . Unfortunately it´s not so easy to get those primary sources but I´m still young and one day I´ll finish my personally data base. By now it is possilbe for me to identify active officers (army and naval) and enlisted men/NCO´s with unique colonial medal bars. Impossible for me are retired officers like Korvettenkapitän der Reserve von Veltheim or military servants like Feldlazarett-Inspektor Mutschall. But in this case I have learnt which sources ("Taschen Kalender für Beamte der Militär Verwaltung") are also important for my research work. One more book on my large shopping list But like andy I´m also enjoying to identify unknown soldiers, medal and ribbon bars (with colonial and China connection) but in my case I do not own a data base like you have. So thanks a lot for your help and it´s great to put a name back to an unknown soldier. The next days I will open some threads where I will post my few personally results of research work. But as andy said: "So, keep the questions coming." I have two another soldier with exotic colonial medal bars. One of them had MMVK2 for China and the swedish medal of wasa and my list of recipients for the MMVK 2 is uncomplete and I do not own a list of recipients for the swedish medal of wasa but I think he should be identifiable. And the other one is a bavarian veteran who had the combination of bavarian MVK2x and a british medal but with the same problem like the other (bavarian list uncomplete and without a name it is difficult to find out a german recipient of the english medal). Thanks a lot again. Best wishes Karsten

Центральный архив Министерства обороны Российской Федерации Адрес: 142100, г. Подольск Московской области, ул. Кирова, 74. Тел.: (4967)69-96-20, 69-95-59, 69-91-71 central archive of Department of Defense of Russia Adress: 142100. Podolsk area of Moscow, street Kirova 74 telefon: (4967) 69-96-20, 69-95-59, 69-91-71 Проезд: электричка: с Курского вокзала или от метро «Царицыно» до ст. Подольск, далее троллейбусами 1, 2 или автобусами 10, 14, 15 до остановки «Архив» рейсовый автобус: от метро «Южная» автобусами 406, 417 до остановки «Архив» Время работы: понедельник—четверг: 8.30—17.30 пятница: 8.30—16.15 Arrival: From railstation Kursk or metro-station "tsarina" to station Podolsk. Then with trolley-bus 1, 2 or autobus 10,14,15 to station "Archive" opening hours: monday to thursday 8:30 to 17:30 friday 8:30 to 16:15 Hope I could it transelate it tolerably. From russian to german would be a lot easier Best wishes Karsten

Hello Glenn, thanks a lot for those informations. Best wishes Karsten

Yes you´re absolutely right. Missing NCO long service brooch..... ....so he can´t be a paymaster. I attach the shoulderboard of him and I recognize the imperial eagle and a single pip (like an "Oberleutnant" equivalent as you said). Now I´m hoping that Siekmann will give us a match. Best wishes and thanks for helping me Karsten

Hello, I have this interesting photo of a paymaster (or military servant). Unfortunately the medal bar is not so clearly but I assume the following decorations on his bar: KO4 AEZ Red Cross Medal 3rd class prussian lifesaving medal or 1870/71 war-medal (?) China-medal for fighters Centenary-medal Could he be identifiable? Unfortunately I couldn´t find anyone with that combination in the rank lists of 1902, 1904, 1905 and 1908 Nice to see also his rare spiked sun-helmet. I hope you can help me and give him his name back. Best wishes Karsten

Another one with an interesting medal-bar. The wearer is Forstmeister and Hauptmann der Landwehr Pogge. During the boxer-rebellion he was member of the "Reitende Feldjäger". Curios to see that he received decorations (for his service during the boxer-rebellion) from Russia and Italia but nothing from Prussia Best wishes Karsten

Nice to see an earlier photo of Kanzlei-Inspekteur im Militär-Kabinett Hugo Streit. Thanks for posting it. Here is a later photo of him with a bigger medal bar. Best wishes Karsten