bigjarofwasps

Splendid write up re George Compton, thoroughly enjoyed reading it Alan, thanks for sharing it! Would like to think it’s one and the same chap!!

Fascinating reading Alan. It never ceases to amaze me, what information can be unearthed about these officers. Thank you for taking the time to share it with the group!

Interesting, but I can’t think of a single police force that doesn’t have the queens crown as part of their helmet plate (but I maybe wrong)? Which suggests to me that “when” there is a change from queens crown to kings crown, every force will require a new badge? Would be very curious, if the king chose to remain with a queens crown, but will have to wait and see….

I don’t share your optimism, although there will undoubtably be a Coronation Medal. I suspect it’ll be along the same lines as the Queen’s Coronation, awarded to only those physically there and or a select few issued to each force. But I guess we’ll just have to wait and see…….

Dave, I fear you may well be correct. Haven’t even received a confirmation of receipt of email, yet. I wonder whether it’s worth contacting the 4 Welsh forces directly……?

I’m in no doubt, they’ll definitely be a change in police badges and a new effigy on the LSGC, but when that will be and how long that will take is anyones guess…….

Saw this, thought it might be of interest?

Have received confirmation from the Police Federation, that there will be bars to the police LSGC, that match that of the ones previously announced to the Fire Service LSGC. There will be formal announcement, in the next few weeks, and will be back dated to the 11th March 2022.

This medal is currently listed on EBay, thought it might be of interes, as it includes a bar? Unsure whether it’s the new official one?

Am seeking confirmation under the freedom of information act, as to what numbers of medals have been engraved in Welsh. Numbers produced by force, and numbers of ranks are known to exist. Should I have any sort of formal confirmation, I will of course post it on this thread.

I fear you may well be correct, with regards the award of the medal in general let alone the proposed bars. I am trying to obtain confirmation, one way or the other as to whether these are to be awarded to the police? With regards to the proposed Covid medal, I suspect that idea was shelved long ago, the fact that nothing has materialised speaks volumes. We’re even less likely to see it now. Covid is but a distant memory, the cost of living crisis and war in Ukraine have seen to that…..

I assume that the Prison Service will also be awarded these two additional bars as well?

Ambulance Long Service Medal.

The Fire Service have been awarded a bar for 30 & 40 years additional service to their Long Service and Good Conduct Medal. https://fireengland.uk/sites/default/files/2022-03/Fire Royal Warrant LSGCM.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0wx18puzpbfmBO12K8A2A3K0hsTEwbDqtlUwYPFqytK1AUhOLSli7JlUM The Police and Ambulance where supposed to be getting the same, but as yet there has been no formal acknowledgment….

Well 5 months on, am still unaware of any formal acknowledgment of any bars to the police award (or ambulance service, for that matter) Although the fire service do appear to now be awarding it, although am yet to see any physical example(s).

Saw these slabbed examples, thought they might be of interest?

Very nice!! Obviously the middle one is the converted Covid medal, but would be interested to learn what the other two are?

Osta, that is a shame to hear. It may be of small comfort to learn the U.K. didn’t get one either.

Mint Marks.

Gold Doubloon - Lima mint.

The holey dollar was created to address a shortage of coins in the new colony. Governor Lachlan Macquarie imported 40,000 Spanish reales in 1812 and had convicted forger William Henshall cut the centre out of each, to double the number of available coins. The coins were counterstamped and the outer ring became known as the holey dollar, with the centre renamed the dump. Macquarie set the value of the holey dollar at five shillings, with 15 pence for the dump. These coins went into circulation in 1814 and were replaced with sterling coinage from 1822. The National Museum’s holey dollar is one of about 300 in existence. Further reading: https://www.nma.gov.au/explore/collection/highlights/holey-dollar?fbclid=IwAR3HDI27LQVzy8HriTigYP1M6aC8Un5StKmdrK77abS7zJJn9vo3cGjpmJo#:~:text=Macquarie set the value of,of about 300 in existence (National Museum of Australia)

Have found this a useful tool, for identifying Colonial Spanish Mint Marks…

Another interesting bit of information, The Cerro Rico de Potosí was the richest source of silver in the history of mankind. The extraction of mineral ores in Cerro Rico de Potosí began in 1545 by the Spanish Empire. Between the 16th and 18th century, 80% of the world's silver supply came out of this mine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerro_Rico#:~:text=The Cerro Rico de Potosí,came out of this mine. I suppose with this information, it’s not unreasonable to speculate about whether the silver from this coin, was mined in Bolivia ?? at some point prior to it travel to the Mexico City Mint?

Thought this might be of interest?

It would appear the Royal Mint are now producing medals again, in earnest, to clear the backlog, as a result of the pandemic. Not aware of any further developments on the Police LSGC bar(s) as of yet. The anticipated Covid Pandemic medal, appears to have fallen by the wayside, by the sounds of things? There being no further sounds about it, being case and point…….