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Update from the Home Office (via the Fed), with regards Police LSGC’s is that the effigy was being decided on for both the late Queen and the King. But now it is almost ready. This is something outside of the Home Office and will sit with the Cabinet Office and the Royal Household. Hopefully, the Home Office will be giving advice to forces shortly that the new medals are ready once they hear that the effigy has been decided.

Additional information has come to light re the recent awards (none bars), that these medals still bear the E11R effigy, despite be qualified for 12 months into C111R’s reign.

London Gazette for the Cadet Forces LSGC - 12th September 2023 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/64168/supplement/18194

With the impending introduction of the C111R version, coupled with the fact that Gwent, Dyfed Powys and SWP have not previously been giving their Officers the option to have their medals engraved in Welsh. Means that any E11R examples seen would be unique to NWP.

The floods in Libya are looking like another contender as well 😱! https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/news/libya-floods-eu-mobilises-emergency-assistance-its-civil-protection-mechanism-2023-09-13_en

Latest information suggestions that the delays in the production and issuing of medals, is in fact not at the feet of the Royal Mint. But it is in fact the Home Office, that are causing the backlog? The exact reason for this, is still to be established. It is also unclear at this time whether the formal effigy to be used as in fact been finalised? Which suggests that it may in fact, perhaps be different from the one used for the recent Nuclear Test & Humanitarian medals.

This tragic set of circumstances, would certainly appear to fit the criteria, wouldn’t it.

Dave, thought this might be of interest? By pure coincidence, the aforementioned medal. Would appear he qualified for it as as Dep Chief Con. Although to be fair, this is still the highest rank on a modern LSGC, that I’m aware of!

During a recent trip to the Western Front, I visited Thiepval memorial. I found a piece of glass which, appears to be a shard from a broken beer bottle (not unusual for a German trench I assume?). I could just make out a design on it. I have roughly pinned pointed were I was as the red “X” in the middle of the blue circle on the Google map. I believe this to be the area of the German third line support trench called Hohenzollern Street that leads into the Wunderworks, see red “X” in blue circle on trench map. I have been able to ascertain, that this part of the front was held by the 26th Reserve Division (between 1914-1916). This division was formed from men recruitedfrom Württemberg. The design on the bottle appears to be the Wurttemberg coat of arms? It would be interesting to ascertain whether the division, supplied it’s men with local beer from home? Or someone had brought it up to the line themselves or had it sent to them by loved ones, perhaps? Not sure whether it’s a coincidence or not. But out of the 11 breweries listed on the internet that I could find, still in existence in Württemberg only one, the Stuttgarter Hofbräu brewery appears to use the Württemberg coat of arms. Could this bottle have come from there? Can anyone, shine any more light on this for me?

Happened across these, thought they were interesting. Not of any particular value. Initially it was suggested, that they were tokens given to staff at the values Guinness Breweries, in order to exchange for stout at the end of a shift or indeed during a shift. However I now don’t believe this to be the case. They appear to be some sort of promotional item. I am curious, to learn, exactly when/where they were in circulation. Anyone able to shine any light on them?

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Thought this might be of further interest?

I was thinking that perhaps with the Nuclear Vets Medal being referred to as a “commemorative” medal, that it might differ from others? But with the unveiling of the Humanitarian Medal, and it having exactly the same effigy, it would appear not to be the case. No additional information, is available with regards, to when we can expect to start seeing previously established medals, being the new effigy. Will be interesting to see if all effigies are now the same, or whether there will be crowned and uncrowned versions as previously awarded…??

Other than facing to the left, I wasn’t too far of the mark, in the end 👍😂

Now that the Nuclear Veteran’s medal has been formally unveiled (appearing to confirm what the new effigy, will finally look like), I thought I’d take the opportunity to have a little tinker….

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-medal-design-unveiled-to-honour-veterans-of-britains-nuclear-tests#:~:text=The qualifying period for the,sent to next of kin.

Nuclear Veterans Medal released. Interesting that C111R is facing the same way as E11R.

Yes indeed, but what I think is particularly curious. Is the fact that it doesn’t appear that it is intended to be back dated for anything specific. Like Covid, Grenfell or the recent earthquakes in Turkey for example. So does this make it the first British medal to be created for an event that hasn’t yet come to pass?

😂😂👍👍👍 No one seems to be able to account, for why it is taking so long or indeed when it will be confirmed! All I can say, is the backlog must now be considerable and growing bigger by the day!!

Assume this will be the first medal, to solely bear the King’s effigy? Interesting that it doesn’t include Covid?

Another new medal - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-humanitarian-medal/the-humanitarian-medal-command-paper