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Thxs a lot! Had a high price but I thought it is a MUST for a medal bar collector.

Gentlemen, many many thanks to all of you, especially to Rick!!!! I am very happy that you unveiled the owner and dug out all the other information! Great!!!!

Details of the bars

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Today i got a medal bar from a collector friend who purchased it from the family of the winner. Unfortunately no one knew who was the winner. I would appreciate any information concerning following questions: - Is there a chance to find out the winners' name, I think, it must have been a Navy officer or NCO from one of the eight ships which have been involved in the Venezuela battle in 1902/03 - How many of the Schwarzburg-Sondershausen 3rd class crosses w swords were awarded - What has happened in Deutsch-Neuguinea ion 1913/14 that caused to the award of this bar? Thanks!!

Backside.

I have got this badge together w a medal bar. Has anybody an idea what it was for? Thanks for help!

I will hopefully get a copy of his personal file from the archive and will post it when I got it.

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Most probably not much more as there was one state only which gave awards. Maybe the German cross in silver.

It weighs 500 Gramm!!!!!

Thank God its mine!! If I saw it an it was not I would get crazy!!! It is so heavy that it needs 2 pins on back.

The last medal is the Spanish medal for MARRUECOS with the bar MELILLA. According to my information there was only one Bavarian officer who owned this medal, it was Oberleutnant Frauenholz, who was in Marokko together with M?ller, but this was unofficial, he had asked for some weeks off, this was granted and he was permitted to wear his Bavarian uniform.

The owner was Rittmeister Hermann M?ller (later Major a.D. Dr. M?ller-Brand), adjutant of Bavarian Crown prince Rupprecht in the Prussian 4th Army corps.

Winner was an Army captain.

And they are hollow made.

Following numbers out of the book of F. Beyrei?: 1st type Friedrich I. (1868 - 1881): 4 golden, 46 silver medals 2nd type 1882 - 1908: 4 golden, 128 silver medals Friedrich 2nd 1908 - 1918: 68 silver medals.

The lower grades of the order including the medals often were awarded shortly before the civil servant, officer, policeman or NCO retired.

And the winner.

The back.

Winner was General Josef Macher.

The medal type w J.RIES was first made by the end of the year 1870. In the war 1870/71 133 golden and 612 silver medals were awarded from this type, which was then also the the type which was awarded in WW1 (1198 golden and 2932 silver medals). Because ot this fact I doubt that for China and Southwest Africa the early type was awarded as I am sure that there were no more old style medals in stock.

Originals of this type have to have a very thick suspension ring and the name of the medal maker (artist) J.RIES on the frontside. Please see enclosed pic of an original medal.