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Hi Dan, I mentioned it before but in a short form: the auction house was "Hanseatisches Auktionshaus, Hamburg" (1993). Ciao, Claudio

Last but not least page 14... finally I have posted all Brunner's items... quite something, isn't it!

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Here I am posting several pages of HH's auction in which Brunner's items were sold. There was a huge amount of items for sale which were spead, after this auction, to the 4 winds and maybe lost forever. Ciao, Claudio

Hi Glenn, Hi Dan! Thank you very much for your contributions. I never expected such replies, when I first posted this thread. I am going to ask my brother to send me some scans of the auction where some other Brunner's items were sold, since I don't have the catalogue with me. Ciao, Claudio

Dear forumites: I have since a long time (more than 10 years) this Spange of Generalleutnant Josef Brunner. At the time when the spange was sold, also lots of other stuff was sold separately. I was lucky enough to purchase just the bar, I didn't have enough money for the rest, though. I am looking for a clear photograph of this officer; it would be great of him wearing his medal bar or ribbon bar. As you can see he was a bit naughty: he wrongly wore the DA 25 and DA 18 (the 2 crosses) instead of the correct couple (DA 25 and DA 12, golden cross and golden medal). Medal bar description: ? Preu?en, Eisernes Kreuz 1914, 2. Klasse (OEK 1909) ? Kaiserreich ?sterreich-Ungarn, Milit?rverdienstkreuz 3. Klasse mit Kriegsdekoration ? Kaiserreich ?sterreich-Ungarn, Signum Laudis in Gold mit Kriegsdekoration ? Kaiserreich ?sterreich-Ungarn, Karl-Truppenkreuz ? Kaiserreich ?sterreich-Ungarn, Verwundetenmedaille Laeso Militi, 1-malige Verwundung ? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, DA 1. Klasse f?r 25 Dienstjahre der Luftwaffe (OEK 3857) ? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, DA 2. Klasse f?r 18 Dienstjahre der Luftwaffe (OEK 3858) ? ?sterreich 1. Republik, Kriegserinnerungsmedaille ? Ungarn, Kriegserinnerungsmedaille Bemerkungen: Gem?ss Auktionskatalog geh?rte die Spange dem Generalleutnant Josef Brunner. 1913 zum Leutnant bef?rdert, dienste er w?hrend des 1. WK als Kompanie Offizier im IR 98. Anfang 1917 erfolgte die Ausbildung zum Flugzeugbeobachter mit anschlie?endem Einsatz in der Flieger Kompanie 96, deren Kommandant er in der Zeit von 11.1917 ? 11.1918 war, bei gleichzeitigem Einsatz als Feldpilot. 1918 Bef?rderung zum Hauptmann, 1927 zum Major. 1918-20 Flugzeugf?hrer bei der deutsch-?sterreichischen Fliegertruppe, ab 1935 Kommandant des Flieger Regiments 1, Wien. Ab 1938 kommandiert zum Kampfgeschwader 157. 1937 Bef?rderung zum Oberstleutnant, 1939 zum Oberst. In dieser Zeit Gruppen Kommandeur im KG 55. Bei Kriegsbeginn Offizier z.B.V., kommandiert zur Aufkl?rungsgruppe 14, Ernennung 1941 zum Generalmajor, Kommandeur der Luftwaffe bei der Heeresgruppe Nord, ab Februar 1942. 1943 Generalleutnant. 1943/44 Kommandeur der Luftkriegsschule 1, Dresden, Klotzsche u. Fliegerhorst Kommandant Dresden. Juni 1944 bis Februar 1945 h?herer Kommandeur der Luftkriegs- und Offiziersschulen, danach F?hrerreserve OKL. Brunner geh?rte nach dem Ende der Monarchie und der ?bernahme in das Bundesheer der 1. Republik, neben Generaloberst L?hr, der mit ihm befreundet war, zu den bedeutesten Pers?nlichkeiten, welche sich dem Wiederaufbau der deutschen Luftwaffe widmeten. Er galt als Spezialist auf dem Gebiet des Luftbildwesens und der Luftaufkl?rung. GENERALLEUTNANT JOSEF BRUNNER Born: 30 Oct 1889 in Stadl-Paura, Ober?sterreich Died: 15 Jan 1967 in Lambach, Ober?sterreich Promotions: Leutnant (01 May 1913); Oberleutnant (01 Mar 1915); Hauptmann (01 Nov 1918); Major (27 Sep 1927); Oberstleutnant (22 Jun 1937); Oberst (01 Apr 1939); Generalmajor (01 Sep 1941); Generalleutnant (01 Oct 1943) Career: Accepted into the Austrian Army as Company-Officer, Platoon and Company Commander in the 98th Infantry-Regiment (18 Aug 1910-23 Feb 1917) Pilot-Training at the Flying-Officer-School in Wiener-Neustadt (24 Feb 1917-12 May 1917) Observer-Officer in the 36th Flying-Company (12 May 1917-00 Nov 1917) Commander of the 36th Flying-Company and Field-Pilot (00 Nov 1917-00 Nov 1918) Pilot with the German-Austrian Flying-Troop (00 Nov 1918-00 Aug 1920) In the 5th Infantry-Regiment and at the Infantry Technical School (00 Aug 1920-31 Mar 1934) Detached to the 1st Flying-Regiment (01 Apr 1934-30 Jun 1935) Commander of the 1st Flying-Regiment, Vienna (01 Jul 1935-31 May 1938) Transferred into the German Luftwaffe (15 Mar 1938) Detached to the 157th Bomber-Wing (01 Jun 1938-30 Nov 1938) Group-Commander in the 55th Bomber-Wing and Airbase-Commandant Langenhagen (01 Dec 1938-30 Jun 1939) Officer with Special Duties and Detached the 14th Reconnaissance-Group (01 Jul 1939-16 Feb 1941) Commander of Luftwaffe with Army-Group North (17 Feb 1941-00 Feb 1942) Commander of Luftwaffe with Commander-in-Chief West (00 Feb 1942-1943) Commander of the Air War School 1, Dresden-Klotzsche and Airbase-Commandant, Dresden (1943-09 Jun 1944) Higher Commander of Air War and Officers Schools (10 Jun 1944-22 Feb 1945) F?hrer-Reserve OKL ? To the Disposal of the Flying-Replacement-Division (22 Feb 1945-08 May 1945) Ciao, Claudio

Pleeeeeeeease Sascha, show us your bar in its full spleandor!!!

We are living in a small world after all... Look what I found on an old German Auction catalogue (Mars & Merkur GmbH and Hermann Historica OHG, Versteigerung seltene Orden M?nchen 12.11.1988). The hammer price at that time was DEM 2'100.- plus commission (15% only!! Today commission fees are at least 20% up to 23% and sometimes you have to add the German VAT also!). Now, after such a long travel, the bar is in my pawns!!! But I had to pay quite a salty price for that!! Ciao, Claudio

Well, Sascha, first I thought that the device with crown and swords on my bar was for a Prussian Kronenorden 4th class, but I was also suggested that it could have been the less awarded (at least in the Franco-Prussian war 1870-71) House Order of Hohenzoller, RK mit Schwertern. Difficult to say with any doubt. I think the crown device on the RAO it must look differently, like the ones shown before, with the red enamal background. Just my 2 cents... Ciao, Claudio

My crown and swords device. Ciao, Claudio

My RAO crown device... Ciao, Claudio

I can recognize the second from the top. Great bars! These are fun to be collected and would be a good start for any new medal bar enthusiast. When your partner has some new medal bars, especially the ones with enamel orders, please let me know! Ciao, Claudio

Hi M?nster! Gadly I will stop at your counter next time and say hello to you. Your partner has been always very fair with prices and his and your pieces have been quite interesting! My brother got a small 2 pieces medal bar last time. I was really very tempted to buy Schmidt's medal bar, but I was saving up for Thies auction. Sorry!!! Ciao, Claudio

Hi Gary, I saw this bar at Illingen (Sammlerb?rse) this June. I was very tempted to buy it, but I knew that a Oberst Schmidt wouldn't be easily researched. But still it's a great piece in mint conditions still attached to the hard paper backing of the juweller/tailor. I think that the asking price was Eur 500.-/550.-. I am surprised to see that such bars do a lot of travelling around in just a couple of months... first in Germany now in the USA! Great addition to your collection... my compliments! Ciao, Claudio