Claudio

I also think it must have been some kind of Colonial order... @Hendrik: Do you have a picture of the Cambodian National Merit Order, showing the color of the ribbon? ciao, Claudio

Thanks Hendrik, for your correction. I am not sure about the Cambodian National Merit Order... the blue ribbon in Sainz' ribbon bar looks totally different from this order (look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Order_of_Cambodia ). I corrected the list like that: ? Ordre national de la L?gion d?Honneur, Commandeur ? Croix de Guerre 1939 ? 1945 ? Croix de Guerre des Th??tres d'Op?rations Ext?rieurs (1921) ? M?daille des ?vades (1926) ? Croix du Combattant (1930) ? M?daille d?Outre-Mer / M?daille coloniale (1893-1962), Extr?me Orient ? M?daille comm?morative de la Guerre 1939-1945 (1946), France/Afrique/Lib?ration ? M?daille comm?morative de la Campagne d'Indochine (1953) ? Ordre de l??toile Noire, Commandeur (1889-1963) ? Ordre du Dragon d'Annam, Officier (1886-1950) ? Ordre des Palmes Acad?miques, Officier (1808/1955) ? ??? ? Ordre de l'?toile d'Anjouan, Commandeur (1874-1963) ? Ordre du Million d??lephant et du Parasol Blanc ? Ordre de Nichan Iftikhar, Tunisie (Ordre de la fiert?), Commandeur ? Ordre du m?rite civil Tha? (1950-1954), cr?? par le conseil de la f?d?ration Tha?, Commandeur Ciao, Claudio

TOE in the box, hand written (Mekong, Colonel Sainz)

more...

more insignia

more insignia

some insignia

Medal bar

Detail of the big ribbon bar... Here is the description of the orders (please feel free to correct me): ? Ordre national de la L?gion d?Honneur, Commandeur ? Croix de Guerre 1939 ? 1945 ? Croix de Guerre des Th??tres d'Op?rations Ext?rieurs (1921) ? M?daille des ?vades (1926) ??? I am not sure ? Croix du Combattant (1930) ? M?daille d?Outre-Mer / M?daille coloniale (1893-1962), Extr?me Orient ? M?daille comm?morative de la Guerre 1939-1945 (1946), France/Afrique/Lib?ration ? M?daille comm?morative de la Campagne d'Indochine (1953) ? Ordre de l??toile Noire, Commandeur (1889-1963) ? Ordre du Dragon d'Annam, Officier (1886-1950) ? Ordre des Palmes Acad?miques, Officier (1808/1955) ? Ordre National du M?rite, Commandeur (1963) ? Ordre de l'?toile d'Anjouan, Commandeur (1874-1963) ? Ordre du Million d??lephant et du Parasol Blanc ? ??? ? M?rite Congolais, Commandeur Ciao, Claudio

Dear forumites, I would like to show a nice group of ribbon bars and medals belonged to g?n?ral m?dicin Xavier Sainz (1902-1986). I'd really appreciate any additional information about g?n. Sainz military career! Thank you very much for your attention... Ciao, Claudio

Yes I know... that's why I am posting them... ;-)

some more details

another detail

thanks Mike... here is a picture of the whole reverse of the bar...

Serial no. on the reverse of the Royal Victorian Order (MVO)

Vasa order

Detail markings Sword's order... I can't take a better picture than this one, unfortunalely...

Dear forumites, I'd like to show you something that it's new to me and, strangely enough, not Imperial German. Still the quality of the Jewellers made Northern Europe Orders are quite stunning, to say the least. Here is a description of the orders and medals in the medal bar of the Componist and military music conductor, Ille Gustafsson: ? Sweden, Gustav V:s minnesmedalj ? Sweden, Sv?rdsorden, knight grade cross ? Sweden, Vasaorder, knight grade cross ? Sweden, Sveriges Orkesterf?reningars Riksf?rbund, Reverse with name inscription and date 26.3.1938 ? Sweden, F?rtj?nsttecken i guld f?r Ryttarolympiaden Stockholm ? Sweden, Civilf?rsvarsf?rbundet medalj i silver ? Danemark, Dannebrogen Order, knight grade cross ? Norway, Saint Olaf's Order, knight grade cross, GOLD ? Iceland, Order of the falcon, knight grade cross ? United Kingdom, Royal Victorian Order, MVO (member), no. on the reverse 720 More about Ille Gustafsson (only in Swedish): http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ille_Gustafsson http://www.militarmusiksamfundet.com/show_....asp?id=sveadef Ciao, Claudio

It took me more than 2 years to read this thread, but I just wanted to congratulate Christophe for the very nice ribbon bar with the very "exotic" Swedish Swords Order ribbon with crown and swords device! Ciao, Claudio

Nice picture! Here Oberst Giesen is shown still with the Kragenspiegel (collar boards) as Generalstabsoffizier. ciao, Claudio Ortelli

I wouldn't touch these bars not even with 10 meters long pole... ciao, Claudio

R?ckseite/Reverse

Thanks Rick! Here's also a link of Wikipedia D about the 2. KB FAR: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/2._K%C3%B6nig...llerie-Regiment Ciao, Claudio

Before these pictures will be delated on Ebay I am posting them here... The final bid was Eur 579.-. Ciao, Claudio

Hi Rick, Yes, I think you are right... he was a regular officer... I don't know why I came up with it. Mmmmhh... interesting that you noticed that the father might have been a General. The auction house was selling also other stuff from the same family like RAO and KO of Wilhelm's father who actually was a General... you have quite a talented "nose" to find sich interesting details... I think that the DA XXIV, like you very rightly deduced, was just thrown in my group, maybe by mistake, but I think it belonged to his father. Furthermore I got also the Wound Badge in black... @ Doc: yes, the two medals at the end are Bavarian... like in the German description says... Bayern.