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Did anyone ever hear about this medal: China Silberne Erinnerungsmedaille (China Silver Commemorative Medal) (not to be confused with the China-Denkmünze (China Medal) in Stahl (Steel). I found info that 3 later Admirals (Edmund Schulz, Emil Heusinger von Waldegg and Alfred Saalwächter) that were on board the SMS Hertha in 1904 recieved this medal. And many other officers/sailors that were onboard the Hertha. The only medal I managed to find is the Inoffizielle Erinnerungsmedaille "Zum Andenken an meine Dienstzeit in China" but this one was in Bronze. Was there perhaps a version in Silver?
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Neck order (From top to bottom) - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden II. Klasse mit Schwertern - Komtur I. Klasse des Kgl. Württembg. Friedrichs-Ordens mit Schwertern - Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern Medal Bar : 13 medals - 1914 EK II - Kgl. Preuß. Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden III. Klasse - Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse - Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg - Hanseatenkreuz Bremen - k.u.k. Österr. Orden der Eisernen Krone III Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration - k.u.k. Österr. Militär-Verdienstkreuz III Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration - Round medal, perhaps the Finn. Erinnerungsmedaille des Freiheitskrieg 1918 ??? (notice the clasp above it!) (since he has the Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern) - ??? (perhaps one of his 2 Russian awards?) - Kgl. Preuß. Kaiser Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille 1897 ??? - China Denkmünze in Bronze or Kolonial Denkmünze ??? (he was in Tsingtau, China for three months in 1898) The ribbon above this medal has straight vertical lines, I took this photo with a phone so it doesn't show the lines, but I can see the lines when looking at this photo in the book. - RK II. Klasse des Kgl. Sächs. Albrechts-Ordens Here is the full list of his awards from Rangliste 1914 and 1918: - 1914 EK I - 1914 EK II - Kgl. Preuß. Kaiser Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille 1797-1897 (“Centenarmedaille”) - Russischer St. Annen-Orden III. Klasse - Russischer St. Stanislaus-Orden II. Klasse - Kgl. Preuß. Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden III. Klasse - RK II. Klasse des Kgl. Sächs. Albrechts-Ordens - Komtur I. Klasse des Kgl. Württembg. Friedrichs-Ordens mit Schwertern - Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse - Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. Klasse - Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond - Kgl. Preuß. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz - Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg Presumably he also had: - Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer - Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern (3rd medal around the neck) - Finn. Erinnerungsmedaille des Freiheitskrieg 1918 (because he recieved the Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern, also I don't know if he's wearing it on the photo) - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden II. Klasse mit Schwertern (around the neck, first medal) - Hanseatenkreuz Bremen (not listed in the 1918 Rangliste, but perhaps he recieved it after 1918, we can't check because he retired in 1920) It seems he didn't mount the 2 Russian awards he had and also the Kgl. Preuß. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz? I can try and take a better photo from the book if needed. And please do correct me if I made any mistakes! Thanks!
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Hello, can someone help me with the Bios and photos (photos are very important) of the following Admirals: Marinegeneralstabsarzt Dr. Ernst Böse Vizeadmiral (Ing.) Ernst Friedrich Konteradmiral Karl Klüpfel Konteradmiral (Ing.) Wilhelm Korreng Konteradmiral Hans Küsel Konteradmiral Albrecht Meissner Marinegeneralstabsarzt/Admiralarzt Edgar Pillet Konteradmiral Leo Riedel Marinegeneralstabsarzt/Admiralarzt Dr. Friedrich Titschak Konteradmiral Wilhelm Wilke Konteradmiral Fritz Wossidlo And is the bio of Admiralarzt Viktor Praefcke on this page correct? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Praefcke Many thanks!
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Unknown class of a Japanese ribbon
Kriegsmarine Admiral replied to Kriegsmarine Admiral's topic in Japan
Keep in mind he was a Kapitan zur See during that time, not a Vizeadmiral. So you still think it's the 4th Class? I.e. the Officer's Cross? -
Thank you John. I believe the 2nd to last ribbon in the first row is the Spanish Order of Naval Merit, because the owner of this ribbon bar, Vizeadmiral Joachim Lietzmann was the recipient of the Grand Cross of the Spanish Order of Naval Merit with White Decoration. And the Spanish War campaign medal has black stripes on each end of the ribbon.
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Hello, what class of the Japanese Order of the Sacred Treasure is this? This is the ribbon bar of Vizeadmiral Joachim Lietzmann who was the Naval-Attaché at the German Embassy in Tokyo, Japan (24 Aug 1937-30 Mar 1940).
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Does someone have a bio and awards list of the above mentioned man (maybe from Hildebrand's "Deutschlands Admirale 1849-1945 band 4)? A photo would be nice too. I have these photos where he can be seen... Thanks. First photo Uthemann standing in the first row second from the left. Second photo Uthemann on the far right.
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Hello, does someone own all 4 scanned volumes of the "Hans H. Hildebrand und Ernest Henriot: Deutschlands Admirale 1849-1945": Band 1. A-G (Ackermann – Gygas). 1988. 481 Seiten. Band 2. H-O (Habicht bis Orth). 1989. 555 Seiten. Band 3. P-Z. Osnabrück, Biblio Verlag, 1990, Gebundene Ausgabe, Ganzleineneinband, 617 Seiten. Band 4. Marinebeamte im Admiralsrang. Osnabrück, Biblio Verlag, 1996, Gebundene Ausgabe, Ganzleineneinband, 277 Seiten. And if yes, would you be willing to share them? They are very rare to buy in phisycal form and pretty expensive. As I am a history student I really need them for research purposes. I also know about the ABR sites that are based on these books, but they only list WW2 officers. Many thanks.
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Hello, This is an offcier whose ranks confuse me: Charakter als Kapitän zur See (11 Dec 1920); Charakter als Konteradmiral (01 Jun 1940); Kapitän zur See z.V. (07 Apr 1941) Why was he promoted to Kapitän zur See z.V. and didn't get the patent to Konteradmiral z.V.? Is it because earlier he was only a Charakter als Kapitän zur See? If so, look at his photo below, he is clearly wearing and Admirals cap. So if the photo was taken after 07 April 1941 (when he was promoted to Kapitän zur See z.V.) does this mean he was still allowed to wear a Konteradmirals uniform even though he was promoted to Kapitän zur See z.V.? As previously explained to me: "A charakterisierter Konteradmiral wears the Uniform of a Konteradmiral and is adressed as "Herr Admiral", but he is serving in the position of a Kapitän zur See and paid as such. Very often, officers received the Charakter of the next higher rank with their retirement as an appreciation of their services." But Erler was promoted to Charakter als Konteradmiral while placed at the disposal of the Kriegsmarine, not before retiring. Could someone share any light on this particular case? Many thanks.
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Hello, does someone know for how long was the Centenary Medal awarded? It was established on 22 March 1897, but surely it wasn't awarded for just one day. While researching some Admirals I found information that they recieved the Centenary Medal in April 1897 (for example Hans Erler who joined the Kaiserliche Marine on 16 April 1897). Thanks.
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I agree it could well be the Finnische Tapferkeitsmedaille. In Silber right? That would make the awards from his medal bar on this photo as following: -1914 EK II -Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz -China Denkmünze -Südwestafrika Denkmünze -Finn. Freiheitskreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern -Erinnerungsmedaille des "Finnischen Freiheitskrieges" 1918 mit Spange -Finnische Tapferkeitsmedaille in Silber Also, no Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer on this photo because it is pre 1934. The last ribbon could be the Grand Cross of the Spanish Order of Naval Merit with White Decoration, seen on the last photo you posted.
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Sorry for the bad quality of the pics. Konteradmirals Otto Klüber (portrait) and Waldemar Kober (standing on the photo). They both recieved the Spainenkreuz, but I don't know the Class? Klüber perhaps the Spanienkreuz in Silber mit Schwertern? Kober also? Although he was the Chief Engineer on the Cruiser ‘Nürnberg’, so perhaps ohne Schwertern? Also, 2 unknown Awards below their Iron Crosses 1st Class? Klüber's is unfortunately covered by his hand... Thanks.
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Please help me ID the awards of this Vizeadmiral. What I have so far: 1914 EK II Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer Südwestafrika Denkmünze China Denkmünze Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz Finn. Freiheitskreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern ??? Erinnerungsmedaille des "Finnischen Freiheitskrieges" 1918 mit Spange ??? It is possible the 2 unknown awards are foreign. Thanks.