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    Danny980

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    1. Good evening. I am a serving MPS officer and also an ex-Guardsman with 23 years service with the colours. I have seen first hand the differing levels of turnout over the last 40 years in both the army and police. To address some of your comments. Tunics - No longer personal issue in the vast majority of county forces. Officers from some forces were issued temporary tunics for the coronation, to be returned after use. So you can imagine the level of fit/tailoring. The MPS still issue tunics, but they are very rarely worn, with the exception of Passing Out parades, occasional Crown Court and promotion board interviews. Medals - The military quite rightly place a great emphasis on medals, ribbons, mounting and when they are worn. Soldiers, sailors and airmen all take pride in them. Within the MPS, there is absolutely no emphasis placed on medals, which are only worn on tunics. So if you don't even possess a tunic?? Some officers wear their entitlement and some don't. Some are swing mounted and some are court mounted. Some are even loose, side by side! I know officers who have four medals, all of which are still in their boxes, tucked away in a draw at home. Nothing is likely to be said to an officer who chooses not to wear their medals. It's a personal choice. A lot of police officers view jubilee and coronation medals and even the LSGC as meaningless. This is evidenced by the ones being sold online. I recently messaged a seller on eBay who was selling a police LSGC and two jubilee medals, asking who had they been issued to. I was shocked when the seller replied that following retirement he was selling off his own medals! Cap Badges - No direction has yet been given, but I anticipate that within the MPS new hats/helmets and their associated badges will simply be issued over time as old ER stock runs out. Any other way would be very expensive and wasteful. There is always the chance that new badges will be issued for beat duty helmets, as officers tend to retain their helmets for a number of years. We will have to wait and see. Turnout - Within the MPS we still take steps to ensure that our officers look the part, and the vast majority do. There will always be officers who struggle to meet those standards, just as there were in the Guards. Within the military you had to produce the worn out item of clothing to obtain a nice new replacement. Within the MPS officers simply request new shirts, trousers, hats etc (within reason) and the new items are delivered within days, with no requirement to hand in the old/worn item. And it is certainly not viewed as bullying to address poor turnout , which we do on a regular basis. Beards, overt tattoos and 'man buns' are all accepted today, across the whole police service. I hope that this enlightens you all as to the workings within the modern day Police and I would be happy to answer any other questions. Danny Irish Guards Metropolitan Police
    2. 23 years in the Army (Irish Guards) and 22 years in the Metropolitan Police, and still going!!
    3. I'm a serving Metropolitan Police officer. They fell behind due to COVID. The Royal Mint were very slow in producing. I was presented with my medal recently, a year late. The MPS now hold ceremonies about every three months and must have nearly caught up. The chap who runs it now is very good. I identified one of my colleagues who had still not received his medal, several years later. He wasn't particularly concerned but I was. This was immediately rectified. Officers still get the choice of attending a ceremony in central London or having the medal posted to their Borough Commander. As an ex-Guardsman I am fortunate to have both the army and police LSGC medals. With regards to the Platinum Jubilee medal. The Metropolitan Police are not issuing until May. Sad to see so many up for sale online already from other forces.
    4. PS Wilson was awarded his 1887 medal as a PC on C Division. You appear to have a complete set: 69947 PC Henry Waters. joined 29/12/1884 - S Division (Hampstead) 1887 - Y Division (Highgate) 1897 - Y Division 1902 - Y Division Left on pension 02/01/1911. 1911 - Rejoined with a temporary Warrant Number 3699 for the 1911 Coronation.
    5. Good evening. I followed this on the auction site and carried out some research. The recipient is: 69188 William Wilson. Joined 21041884. Retired 26041909 as a PS on Y Division. Rejoined 13061911 for the 1911 Coronation with the temporary warrant number 2788. He had a full entitlement to all three medals. Sadly, the seller appears to have sold all three medals separately, to three different buyers in the mistaken belief that they would be worth more! They went for £77, £36 and £31. Regards. Danny
    6. Hello. A great photograph. Do we know in which station yard it was taken? I'm a PS in modern day X Division. Kilburn is now part of QK.
    7. Hello..... I am new to this Forum. I came across it while researching MPS jubilee and Coronation medals, of which I've managed to collect about 40 over the last few years. A mixture of 1887, 1897, 1902 and 1911. I have quite a few questions on various topics and various officers. Odin.... Do you still have any copies of your book for sale?
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