Christian L

nice bars a guess on the frack bar - the guy was a kyffh?user member and wore the kyffh?user medal until he was awarded the honorcross, the kyffh?user medal was than no longer allowed to be worn on the medalbar, so he changed only the medal to the cross for saving money on getting a new bar. christian

to my knowledge only one person got both knightscrosses (ek and kvk) - so this is a RARE combo! christian

thats really a gentle behaviour of you heiko, that you will pass on it - that it can go into my collection but for the minichain - its a wonderfull group and a more than well made work of art! (and i think in a "safe" collection to stay for a long time!) christian

very nice clasps! the single one and the one on the chain - but if you are not happy with it and heiko would pass on it (what i think would never happen) i would be more than interested in those christian

thanks a lot to all for participating!!! these rarly or (at least for me) some never seen decorations are very nice and interesting! if there will be a picturebook available on these, i'm pretty sure that i'd like to get one - as those are real eye candys with a lot of research potential in the way of historical background (not for the recipient, but for the decoration itself!) christian

here is a bigger scann of the markers tag and catch - also from the bar itself i'm selling it and (as much you can trust a sellers comment - or perhaps not) i really like the bar (very much)! the catch is not a "rounded" hand made one - its not U shape like it has real corners like this [] (its impossible to make a scann of it, but i hope you understand my poor explanation).

as africa is such a big part on the map, i'm really trying to get some orders of the different states to my mind - but it is harder than i thought! from the more common ones like egypt, tunesia and ethiopia i get some - but others - even with looking up in some databases i would really enjoy if forum members have some and would like to share! christian

thanks a lot for your replys! was the mvk often awarded in during the war? christian

this very well worn ribbonbar looks very good to me - but i have a few problems in iding the ribbons, as there are no devices on. so my guess would be: 1.) ek 2 2.) nco plm (so made it to officer during the war) 3.) house order of hohenzollern with swords 4.) saxonian albrechts order 5.) hessen bravery medal 6.) long service decoration 7.) centenial medal 8.) kyffh?user medal am i correct on these? christian

here is the red cross medal (i think they have different grades of this medal) christian

i personally like the pin and the catch and the mounting is in the way which i would accept as original - to be 100 % sure - you have it in hands, but i'm 99,9 % sure, that it is a great bar! (schaumburg-lippe is gread - isn't it ) christian

reverse:

what do you think about this trapez medalbar? the construction looks very imperial. the ribbon? not official, but at least the color look like braunschweig, don't they? christian

here a picture of a soldier with a removed decoration in the last place (might this be the same one?)

after looking and thinking more and more on the bar, i'd say, that the missing award is a foreign decoration which was awarded during the war. veterans award - no, as if he would have been entitled for wearing the honor legion medal at the time he ordered the lapel bow he would have worn it there as well or he prefered an "official" lapel bow - with the orders and medals in the official way mounted - so the missing award is the last one. so i'd say, this order was awarded during the war and was related to "something-real" not like his awards he choose to wear behind his honor legion medal on the medalbar (as a way of showing his way of preference) and the lapel bow as the official way. (hard to explain my thinkings of the bar - even in german ) but i would say - foreign wartime award! christian

is it possible that the ribbon is for some kind of veterans association medal, as he wears the honor-legion medal after the ek but before all the other official medals? christian

i have this picture - but as uniforms are far out of my field of knowledge i really don't know which nationality this soldier has. help is much apreciated christian

nice stuff! the mini is the z?hringer lion order from baden in the grade of knight 2nd class. christian

wow - great breast star!!!!!!!!!!!!! (if you ask like this - It is cased and, if you wish, I can haul out the camera and snap the case while the goodie is on "home leave". - than i can't say no ) thanks much and a great work of art! christian

great breast star! can we see a picture of the reverse (would be interesting if they "prefer" needle or srewback attachement - and how they made the reverse) wonderfull example christian

nice medalbar! and interesting as he is wearing the austrian medal not behind the ek (as this is the only other official medal beside the ek) christian

please help me - (i'm a job student - so i would be very pleasent if you can provid me more infos on this for replacing the medals - otherwise it wouldn't be possible anymore as i will ran out of money ) but another question - do you think it will be traceable? (if i'll be able to find the correct medals?) i know at the moment only another medalbar with a english medal on (i'm thinking on a ww2 medalbar now) christian

this trapez medalbar without medals confuses me a bit. ribbons are: 1.) prussian long service 2.) prussian crown order (but why behind a long service decoration?), w?rttemberg friedrichs order, greek order of redeemer 3.) russian saint stanislaus order, or medal for zeal 4.) wasn't able to find this ribbon or was my guess wrong that this is a german bar? (construction is very german i think, and the ribbons, construction and everything else makes me feel that it is old and original) but perhaps someone else is able to help me a little. now the pics:

this nice picture of a sikh wearing his medals was in the newspaper today - and i thought you might be interested in, how they wear their medals nowadays christian

here we have an awarded medal, which was privatly gilded (as you can see how worn the bar is, the owner was proud, but still liked to save money ) but a lot more interesting is the mounting style - i guess, that the wearer was a soldier carrying in service a metal breast plate where it wasn't possible to attache the medalbar pin to.