David M

Hi Glenn! I checked the overall catalogue of the dutch libraries for this title....no luck

Woooow Glenn that's great....what kind of sources did you use for this? Maybe I am able to find a hard copy in my library! Thanks again, so much!! David M

Although replying to myself, here is the complete overview of Louis'account Angaben ?ber meine milit?rische T?tigkeit im Weltkriege Ich r?ckte als Adjutant der 4. Garde-Infanterie-Brigade (Regimenter Franz und Augusta ) ins Feld. Mein Kommandeur war Generalmajor von Gontard . Die Brigade erhielt ihre Feuertaufe in dem schweren Gefecht bei Auvelais a.d. Sambre am 21.-22.8.1914. In den letzten Augusttagen k?mpfte die Brigade im Verbande des Gardekorps in der gro?en Schlacht bei St. Quentin , die Brigade speziell bei La Val?e. Es folgte die schweren K?mpfe in den ersten Septembertagen die zur Schlacht an der Marne f?hrten. Am 7. September wurde ich neben meinem Kommandeur auf der gro?en Strasse nach Normee durch Granatsplitter am Hinterkopf verwundet, konnte aber nach Anlegung eines Notverbandes noch bis zum Nachmittags meinen Dienst versehen. Dann wurde ich bei der Division verbunden und da die Verwundung doch schlimmer war, als ich im Eifer des Gefechts gemerkt hatte, des Abends im Auto des Divisions-Kommandeurs nach Epernay gebracht. Unterwegs traf ich durch Zufall meinen treuen Burschen Riepenhof , der mich von da hin begleitete. In Epernay blieb ich 2 Tage, und hier erfuhren wir die traurige Nachricht vom R?ckzuge des Westheeres. Von Epernay wurden wir nach Reims gebracht und hier ware ich beinahe in franz?sische Gefangenschaft geraten. Es gelang mir aber, mit verschiedenen Offizieren des Gardecorps in mehreren Autos kurz vor der Besetzung durch die Franzosen nach Laon zu entkommen. Von dort kehrte ich wieder an die Front zur?ck und traf meine Brigade n?rdlich Reims. Am Tage meiner R?ckkehr (13.9.) erhielt ich von meinem Divisions-Kommandeur das E.K.2. Die Heilung meiner Kopfwunde nahm doch mehrere Wochen in Anspruch, da das liegen in harten und feuchten Unterst?nden sich als besonders sch?dlich erwies. Ich blieb Brigade-Adjutant bis Weihnachten 1914. Dann erfolgte meiner Versetzung zu einem neu aufzustellenden Reserve-Infanterie Regiment, R.I.R. 261 in D?beritz, dem ich als Kompanie-F?hrer zugeteilt wurde. Nach 4 w?chiger Ausbildung r?ckten wir Anfang Februar ins Feld und zwar nach dem Osten. Als F?hrer der 6. Kompanie, Reserve-Infanterie Regiment 261 machte ich hier die Winterschlacht in Masuren und die Verfolgung bis zum Bobr mit. Hier wurde mein bisheriger Bataillons-F?hrer, Hauptmann von Gr?ter , fr?her 2. Garde-Regiment, neben mir schwer verwundet und ich ?bernahm das Bataillon, das ich bis Ende August 1915 f?hrte. Zun?chst in den Stellungsk?mpfen bei Augustowo und Kalwarja, anschlie?end in den Angriffsk?mpfen an der Schlawanta und den K?mpfen um Kowno. Im Gefecht an der Jessja erhielt ich das E.K.1 (19.7.1915). W?hrend der Verfolgung von Kowno auf Wilna erkrankte ich an Lungenkatarrh und wurde zun?chst nach K?nigsberg geschickt, wo ich bei meinem Onkel Wyneken verblieb. Nach kurzer Erholungszeit traf mich hier meine Versetzung in den Generalstab und gleichzeitige Kommandierung zum A.O.K. 5, der Kronprinzen Armee. Am 25.9.1915 traf ich an der Westfront im Hauptquartier des Kronprinzen ein. Chef des Kronprinzen war damals mein alter Kommandeur vom 4. Garde-Regiment z.F., Generalmajor Schmidt von Knobelsdorf , dem ich letzten Endes meine Versetzung in den Generalstab zu verdanken hatte. Kaisersgeburtstag 1916 wurde ich in den Generalstab der Armee versetzt und am 4.5.1916 unter Belassung der Uniform des Generalstabes der Armee zum pers?nlichen Adjutanten des Kronprinzen des Deutschen Reiches und von Preussen ernannt. In dieser Stellung verblieb ich bis zum Ende des Krieges und den traurigen Zusammenbruch am 9. November 1918. Am 13. November 1918 sah sich der Kronprinz veranlasst auf holl?ndisches Gebiet ?berzutreten. Seitdem lebe ich mit dem Kronprinzen in freiwilliger Verbannung auf der Insel Wieringen. Meinen Abschied aus den preu?ischen Milit?rdiensten bei dem ?bertritt nach Holland erhielt ich durch Verf?gung des Kriegsministers vom 26. November 1918. ------- Unfortunately, there are some mistakes and flauds, so was the Hauptmann Gr?ter actually a Major and the CP did not transfer to Holland the 13th buth the 12th of November. These kind of mikstakes however, are common with Louis M?ldner. In later correspondence he refers to Major Edgar von Hellermann, as Hauptmann Hellermann and to Leutnant Freiherr Bottlemberg genannt von Schirp as Leutnant von Bottenberg. But than again....he was hid on the head by that shell....right Furthermore I would like to know something more on the actions he describes on the Eastern Front during his service. Although I did some research, I have not been able to find details on actions such as the Battle at Schlawanta and the Verfolgung von Kowno auf Wilna or the Verfolgung bis zum Bobr. I serached sites like stahlgewitter, with no succes. Would you have any suggestions as were to look for such informations? Basically I am just looking for a short account of what happened and wether or not it was favourable to the Central Powers. Thanks for any help, David M.

Hello gentlemen! The officer I have been asking questions about several times, Louis M?ldner von M?lnheim, wrote a short account on his services during WWI. He writes he was wounded "auf der grossen Strasse nach Norm?e" at the 7th of September 1914. He was taken to hospital in Epernay, two days later to a hospital at Reims. He did not stay at Reims very long, because he and some other wounded Gardeofficers had to flee in several cars, because the French army re-occupied Reims. My questions are: Is there a description to be found about the actions at or closeby Norm?e on the 7th of September? As I do not know anything about the german medical corps, were there specific Lazarettes in Epernay and Reims at this time? At which date was Reims retaken by the French troops? (M?ldner does not mention the dat in his account, but it should be between 7.9. and 13.9.1914. Hope you could help me out, or redirect me to another source! Thanks David M.

Mike!! That's fantastic!! NB von M?ller lived from 1875-1976!!! he descendants now live in Brazil, as I remember correctly!

That's great both of you!! I like the clos-up of M?ller!!! He is mentioned time and again in the account Louis made on the exile of the CP, as M?ller went up and down to Berlin and Oels. To finally have a clear image of him is great!!! Regards David

Hi Mike! That would be awesome! Thanks David

That's great Glenn! Interesting to see that he actually died of the wound inflicted when Louis had to take over command. Regards, David M.

Hi guys! I am looking for someone who might have a copy of: Schwerin, C.v. und Schmidt, K.: Reserve-Infanter Regiment 261 (Garde Kriegsformation) in Ost und West, 128 S. Berlin, 1923. Especially interested in Hauptmann Friedrich Freiherr von Diepenbroick-Gr?ter, Bataillonschef during the Masuren-Schlacht and the Verfolgung bis zum Bobr and his previous and afterward career. As well as mention of Louis M?ldner von M?lnheim, Compagniechef in the 6th Company of this Regiment from Dezember 1914-August 1915. Thanks very much for any replies! David M

Hi Glenn, Well yeah that would have been easier I guess (so stupid of me, I completely forgot, you told me you were going there for the Stammliste....)anyway, If you have the title of the book you used, I am sure I can work out something at a German library.... Thanks David

Hi Glenn!!! Well that is a great found! Otto von M?ller became the CP's trustee, next to Louis von M?ldner. The two adjudanten worked together during the exile and the Otto von M?ller, who was born in 1875 lived to 1976(!!) any idea if he would appear on one of the Stammliste of the 1 GRzF (if such a thing exists) to see what his NCO career was like? Again many thanks for you copy you send me privately from the Stammliste with georgs details on it! it contained some very interesting new elements!! BTW, I take it all the promotions of Otto were in the 1GRzF? Thanks again David

Hi guys, this photo was taken and made into a postcard, any idea what kind of uniforms the people are wearing? Thanks DM whoo I just realise what a bad photo this is, I will try and upgrade it soon

Well, I tried, but was wrong....really thought he quite resembled Boroevic... I'll just go and shut up now

Hi Dave! Judging the phot on Glenn J's site, it would be the man left from the emperor (right for the viewer) but see for yourself! http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/biog/boroevic.htm DM

Thanks Glenn, Thats great, I really have no idea how you can tell by such a vague photo... Well the regiment is right, the rank in combination with the time is not, it appears. However it could be a cousin of the M?ldner's, Friedrich von Marschall, but I dont have a clue as of yet of his career, which Andy Bause is so kind to sort out for me Actually, the nose of the guy made me doubt, however I am still hoping to find a picture of Georg in the regimental history of the 39th Fusiliers, which I hope Chris Boonzaier could provide, along with the orders and decorations listings of the dear Oberstleutnant David

Dear Members, I have this phot of a soldier of whom I believe to be Georg M?ldner von M?lnheim. Although his career is known (and given below) I have no clue about when the picture was taken, and I hope for your help in order to attach an era to the photo. So the question is: what uniform is he wearing in this photo? Thanks for your help, David M Laufbahn der k?niglich preussischer Oberstleutnant Georg Emil Theodor M?ldner von M?lnheim 18.9.1893 Diensteintritt als Avantegeur im Kaiser-Alexander-Grenadier-Garde Regiment Nr. 1 (Garnison: Berlin), 21.11.1893 Gefreiter, 27.1.1894 Unteroffizier, 21.4.1894 Portepeef?hnrich, 27.1.1895 Secondelieutenant, 22.3.1897 (Patent vom 27.1.1897) Leutnant 1. Kompagnie, Infanterie-Regiment Hamburg (2. hanseatisches) Nr. 76, 10.7.-5.8.1899 zur Gewehrfabrik Spandau, 15.09.1904 Oberleutnant Infanterie-Regiment Hamburg (2. hanseatisches) Nr. 76 (Garnison: Hamburg), 1906, 1909-1910 kommandiert zur Generalstab, 20.3.1911 Hauptmann und Kompagniechef, 2. Kompagnie Niederrheinisches F?silier-Regiment Nr. 39 (Ganison: D?sseldorf), 1914-18 erster Weltkrieg, 1.7-7.71916 Fort Vaux, 22.3.1917 Major und Bataillonschef des II. Bataillons, 12.1917 Abschied mit der Range einer Oberstleutnant und Genehmigung zum Tragen des Armee-Uniforms des Niederrheinisches F?silier-Regiment Nr. 39. [attachmentid=16337]

Dear Members, Would anyone have the book by Max von Rotsmann on the RIR 222? If so, politely asked to PM me, for I have a question on the apperance of Oberstleutnant and Bataillonkommandant M?ller, who died 30.10.1914 in this book Thanks so much, David M

That would be soooo cool!!! Thanks a lot in advance! David

Glenn Oh I see, so he was promoted hannoverian SLt in 1862, but this date was also mentioned by the prussians, to determine when his promotion to Premierleutnant should take place, as the prussian promotions were after Dienstalter. Right?

Hi Glenn, Thanks That's funny, same as we saw at Carl, Louis holds a Patent of prussian SLt, whilst he retired from hannoverian service as a PLt (or so my source says), he also had an earlier prussian Patent then his beginning of actuall prussian service in 1866. I really hope someone could help me with some data from on of the two von Ebertz books (btw, where did you get this details?), as I hope he is mentioned there, especially since he was awarded an EKII. Interesting is, that EK's seem to have been not so widely spread during 1870/71 as they were during WWI. David

Great Glenn, any further details on his career or awards? DM

Ah I see, thanks again!!

Hi Glenn, Thanks that's great, I just dont get one thing. Why is he aggregirt in March 1867 and eingereiht March 1868? Whats the difference, and what did he do in between do you think Thanks again, David

Dear Members, would anyone of you have in his collection any of these books by Georg Wolfram von Ebertz: Hundertj?hrige Geschichte des Grenadier-Regiments K?nig Friedrich III. (2. Schlesisches) Nr 11 1808-1908 Das 2. Schlesische Grenadier-Regiment Nr. 11, jetziges Gren.-Reg. K?nig Friedrich III im Feldzuge 1870/1 Or a history of the schlesisches F?silier-Regiment Nr 38 in the 1870/71 or its Stammliste? I am looking for Laufbahndetails on the two brothers (Stammliste entries) Louis II. Ernst Wilhelm Friedrich M?ldner von M?lnheim (kgl. hann. Premierleutnant Infanterie-Regiment 7, kgl. preuss. Premierleutnant zuletzt Hauptmann Grenadier-Regiment Nr 11) Carl Louis Theodor M?ldner von M?lnheim (kgl hann 3. Infanterie-Regiment, kgl. hann. Leib-Regiment, kgl. preuss. F?silier-Regiment 38) Carl was the father of the Aide to the CP Wilhelm, Louis III. MvM, both Carl and his brother Louis II. being grandsons of th first kurhessian Kriegsminister and Generaladjudant Georg Karl Wilhelm I. M?ldner, as M. von M?lnheim ennobled in 1831. Thanks a lot!! David M.

As for the were-of CP Wilhelm, he went into exile to, together with his loyal aide de camp, Major Louis M?ldner von M?lnheim. they stayed at Wieriengen untill 1921, then went back to Germany.