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Hi, as far as I know, Orders of St. Sava with image of St. Sava in red robe were made by Arthus Bertrand (Paris), G. A. Scheid (Wienna) and also Karl Fischmeister.

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Thank you for your contribution K2009. Can you tell us something more about person to whom it was awarded ? Name is not visible on the photo.

Thank you. Will try to add some more.

Thank you all for your help. :beer:

I think than mine looks like the one in the hunyadi's post, first row, in the right corner.

Anatoly, many thanks to you and especially to our respected collegue Nenad Bjelos, who is a legend in collecting of orders and medals of Yugoslavia.

I just got this one. Unfortunately damaged pin. Is mine a gold class ? Can anybody tell me the value ? Thank you in advance.

One thing is certain. We have a lot of things to discover.

As I already wrote, he was registrated as a manufacturer of objects from precious metals in 1948. So orders made by him must be made after that period.

Maybe writing to the manufacturer of the white-out will give some better results. They may give us information on chemicals that can work better in ramoving the white-out.

Great pics Waldemar. :love:

The information is most suprising to me too. I have never heard that orders and medals were made by private contractors. Maybe he was a subcontractor ? Or maybe the production of orders and medals was given to private contractors in late 40' s ? So many things yet to be discovered. I do not have information on that workshop or what orders and medals were made there, but I will shurely try to get that information. I also do not have index of mint marks from that time, but I am trying to get it. Information came from Direction for measurements and precious metals of Serbia, from the Chief of the department for precious metals. She gave me the information according to Index of mint marks of items from precious metals that that Direction has.

Here are my results of investigating "HJ" hallmarks: As we knew "HJ" is a manufacturer's hallmark. From the information I got, order was manufactured by Njilas Ivan from Subotica, Serbia. He was registrated as a manufacturer of objects from precious metals in 1948. Order was made from silver 950/1000, as can be seeen from state hallmark that can also be seen on photo of order.

Beautiful photographs. Thank you Emanuel.

As I can see, you do not know full expression which goes: UDBA s...a sudba. I do not want to quote it, because I do not agree with it. Also, I do not think that it is appropriate to link UDBA as a Direction of state security with "(is final)destiny" =death" as you imply.

As I can see, you do not know full expression which goes: UDBA s...a sudba. I do not want to quote it, because I do not agree with it. Aso, I do not think that it is appropriate to link UDBA as a Direction of state security with "(is final)destiny" =death" as you imply.

Luka, please do not make confusion with unappropriate translations like: "UDBA...(is final)destiny" =death, that you made.

Beautifull item Emanuel. Greece has so many beautifull orders and medals.

Another one Anatoly ? Can you post more detailed and clearer pictures, please ?

Thank you Spiros. Welcome to the forum. :beer:

Waldemar, here are hallmarks for precious metals in use in Yugoslavia. As for specified hallmark HJ, it should be hallmark of the manufacturer, but I am doing my research further on and I will let you know what come up. Also, I did not get the picture yet.

No luck yet. I am looking for info about hallmarks and photograph of Pavle Pekic. If I find something, I will post it. :cheers:

Bad luck. I hope that you will have more luck next time. On the other side, it is good that you had an opportunity to examine it personally and to take pictures.

WOW, Waldemar, thank you for showing us this group. Where did you found it ? I have few corrections to your text. UDBA or correctly U.D.B. means "Uprava dr?avne bezbednosti" or in English: Direction of state security. OZNA or correctly O.Z.N. means "Odeljenje za za?titu naroda" or in English: Department for national security.