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A great but sad story. I am glad you found out more about your uncle's fate. A lot of people don't realize that the German Army went to war in 1939 with roughly twice the number of horses that they did in 1914. Don

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Alrighty, then - to the tunic itself! There were six things that really fascinated me about this tunic - first, it was absolutely stone mint - not a nip, rip or stain. Second, it is named -Rittmeister von Doering. Third - the tailor is Holters, and I love the quality of their uniforms. Fourth - it has the Johanniter Order, which I have always loved for its simplicity and beauty (and it helped to positively ID the owner, because, as Rick has kindly pointed out, he was the only von Doering to receive the JO). Fifth, it was tailored in April 1936 - so it is a very early Waffenrock. Finally, if you look closely at the breast eagle, you will see the head faces the wearer's right shoulder, the opposite of what is normally encountered and something that was standardized later in 1936 - I have never seen one of these on an officer's eagle before - only on EM eagles and Belt buckles. Hope you enjoy the pics! Don

Nice lid! The "Reichspatent" visors were made using the Pek?ro licensed Stirndruckfrei method - you can always tell by the black felted cap band. These were a lower-end private-purchase visor, but they are very similar in quality to the Pek?ro's. I have always liked these caps as they have a great shape to them. Don

Thanks, Rick. Figure he made Leutnant at 20, that would make him about 48-50 in 1936. If he didn't make the 100000-man Reichswehr, he could potentially have joined up as a part-timer when the Army expanded again. Could I ask what the following mean? Leutnant 18.8.08 Z2z with the Reuss younger line Honor Cross 3rd Class before the war Oberleutnant 25.2.15 V16v Rittmeister 28.11.17 P As always, muchas gracias for your help! Don

Hi Rick - Orange piped recruiting Waffenrock to Wehrkreis II. Loops for two pin-back awards and five loops for what looks like a pretty long ribbon/medal bar, plus of course the cloth Johanniter Order. 'Rock is dated 1936. Potential retread or creative use of a tailor's label??? Don

Hi All - Here's a scan of a Holter's tag in a Recruiting Hauptmann Waffenrock. Interesting in that he was originally a Cav guy as evidenced by the Rittmeister tag. The 'Rock has a Johanniter Order sewn to it. Any way to trace the guy based on the JH, or is it too common of an "award"? As always, any help appreciated! Don

I actually asked Rick's opinion of the bar on the forum about a year ago because I noticed the stand-alone 18 year service medal, which is a no-no on TR bars. Her confirmed that it was Scheisse... Don

Hi Paul - It's not mine - I was intertested in it if I could prove provenance, but alas.... Don

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Here is the 'Rock in question - ignore the medal bar - it came with the tunic but isn't "right", IMO. Don

Hi All - Thanks very much for all of your efforts - I am always paranoid about removed name labels (even though I know it was often done by the family post-war) for the reasons Rick already outlined. If the tunic has been messed with, and of course it is always a possibility as Admin Generals wore the standard green-piped Waffenrocks of their "branch", somebody went through a considerable amount of trouble as it is definitely not your run of the mill slapped-together job. I'll post ome pics of the entire tunic tomorrow. Thanks again, Don

Hi Rick - I don't own it - I was interested in it if I could ID the guy. I have handled it in person and the tunic itself is legit, IMHO. I was wondering if there was any way to figure out at least the first name and extrapolate from there. Don

Hi All - I am looking over a Heeresverwaltung Waffenrock, Generalleutnant rank, with a smeared/erased last name on the name tag. Given that there were relatively few Admin officers to reach such a high pay grade, is there any hope to ID the owner? I have posted the name tag here. As always, any help much appreciated. Don

$320 is a bit of a bargain - there is a group here itn he states that operates a B-24, B-17G and a B-25H. They charge $10 to get in and $400 for the flight... DOn

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Here's the two pics from Simon:

Coldstream, if you send the pic to mutzenfabrik@yahoo.com I will post it for you. Don

Thanks, Greg - this has been an informative thread! Don

Hi All - To me, classic BeVo work looks like the Free Indian Legion armbadge and the Cossack badge beneath it, with the loose threads to the reverse - that's why I said the original Cossack badge did not look like BeVo to me. Doesn't mean it's "bad", I would just say it is not a classic BeVo style. Don [

I am with Prosper on this one - I believe it to be a reproduction that is made to look like a BeVo badge from the front... Don

Thank you, gentlemen! Don

The Transport tunic is named to an Uffz. Reichert and dated 1938. Unfortunately, the Pionier tunic is unnamed... Don