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more information: Engraving on the cross: 20.11.1891.

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Hi guys, is someone of you familiar with the pictured Maltese Cross (?) ? Regards Detlef

Hi would compare it like this: If nature gave your wife / girl-friend small "eyes" and you would like to have big "eyes", you also would take artificial ones...because you only have this possibility... And I think, it is like with a Mannerheim cross...you will not (never I would not say) get an original Mannerheim cross very easily...so, what is the only thing you can do? Take a copy, but a wartime piece... Detlef

The Mannerheim cross on ebay is definitely a copy; but it is a war time copy of the German company Steinhauer und Lück. This company also manufactured Crosses of Liberty in the WW 2. Reference ==> see the book of Jani Tiainen. I think 500 Euros for such a cross is quite good.

The medal bar is on the German website: cortrie.de

Thanx for this good information. If I remember well, Kai Winkler is offering an original gold one on his website...I think 6 till 7 k€. Regards Detlef

Here is the pic.

Hello experts, this medal bar is in an actual auction - but I do have some doubts about the so called Mannschafts-Pour-le-Mérite. It seems to be one of the very rare ones in pure gold? I asked the seller about the "T" in "Verdienst" - no answer. What do you think? Regards Detlef

Hi Christophe, who is the guy on the pic? Regards Detlef

Auction result: 3.200 pounds...rather disappointing, or?

Thank you guys

very nice picture. thanks for showing it christophe.

Hi, soon a Finland trip is on my agenda and I would like to visit some antiques stores, mainly in Helsinki and surrounding. Does someone of you know good addresses? Regards Detlef

Thanks for all the answers....let us see what will be the result this Thursday...starting price is 3.500 pounds.

I am now really wondering whether this bar might be in fact realistic, but in reality just a put together piece (because no one can identify it). Could this be also the reason that this bar changed its owner so often in the past?

Hi experts, I discovered the following medal bar in the internet. What do you think? Are there some doubts about it? Regards Detlef

Thank you for this information. Danke für die Info. Gruß ins Badische

Hello, for me as a beginner. What means: WVK4X/WF3bX ? And why is this combo unique? Is there a book on the market available where to teach oneself the research of medal bars? Detlef

wow...so quickly a receiptant can be identified. Or is the bar well known to sis forum? Detlef

What is se Wamdecl order? I read in sis forum sat se Waldeck rolls are available?! Detlef

oh, the auction already ended I guess it is possible to put a name on it: Finland + Waldeck + Württember is not quite common, or? Detlef

here is se picture...

Hello, I found sis nice medal bar in the internet...again a nice auction which could be interesting for imperial collectors. Pls follow se link: http://www.lot-tissimo.com/de/i/4095393/p/18/ Very low starting price...good hunting. Detlef

Hi @ all, my opinion is, that he put the medals in the order as he received them..this could explain the strange order. That the the center part of the liberty cross is missing, is a pity, but nevertheless it is quite a nice piece...maybe in Germany manufactured...but this only can be proofed by the way the center part is/was designed. The medal bar looks old...and even the "Knopfloch-thing" (I do not know the English expression) looks old and used and not manipulated...here the order of the medals is also "strange": first: Iron Cross; second: Liberty Cross etc. Regards Detlef