Ed_Haynes

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I will be sending off for research and hoping I live long enough for results. As most of the documents are pretty familiar, I won't bother posting most of them. The order book:

Moreover, Dave wrote a very good article in JOMSA.

All I have ever gotten for Mongolian awards is the award record card. Somewhere there is a Red Star to a Mongolian that I have only as a document; see: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=14692

Private = Sepoy (infantry) = Sowar (cavalry) Corporal = Naik (infantry) = Lance-Dafadar (cavalry) Sergeant = Havildar (infantry) = Dafadar (cavalry) Jemadar (infantry - Naib-Subadar after independence) = Ressaidar (cavalry) Subadar (infantry) = Risaldar (cavalry) Subadar-Major (infantry) = Risaldar-Major (cavalry) = God A bit more complex than this, but close enough.

There is no real equivalent. These were the commissioned ranks for Indians, who were generally disallowed king's commissions until the 1930s. Maybe a US warrant officer rank would be the closest? (If warrant officers were real and normal and powerful?) But the VCO/JCO ranks are uniquely Indian. No. India is independent, partially so since 1947, fully so since 1950. And they inherited all these pension responsibilities, not only for thsoe soldiers who continued to serve after independence (as he did).

Two more, in the group to Lieutenant-General Damdin Tserenjav. Red Star 1780090 (1950) Red Star 3700041 (1971) (Shown with his other Soviet stuff.)

More to come . . . .

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And him, with son (?).

And some things from a neighbor. Red Star 1780090 (1950) Red Star 3700041 (1971) Victory over Japan 25th Anniversary of Victory

Part 2. 30th Anniversary of Khalkin Gol 50th Anniversary of MPA 50th Anniversary of Revolution 50th Anniversary of State Security 30th Anniversary of Victory 40th Anniversary of Khalkin Gol 60th Anniversary of Revolution 70th Anniversary of Revoluition Brotherhood in Arms Border Buard #305

It being some silly US holiday that carries with it significant family infestations, it may take some time to get this all up, but to start off on this group with his awards, part 1: Sukhbaatar 723 (10 March 1970) -- missing -- ANYONE HAVE IT??? Red Banner of Combat Valor 1416 (no document) Order of Combat Valor 95 (September 1946) Order of Combat Valor 552 (10 September 1954) Order of the Polar Star 1555 (26 September 1945) Order of the Polar Star 2624 (1 May 1948) Honorary Medal of Combat No. 1341 (no document) Khalkin Gol Medal Medal "We Won" 904 (6 June 1946) 25th Anniversary of the Revolution 13405 (suspension repaired) (17 August 1946) There are two other entries in the order book (see later on) which I cannot decipher at present. One is a missing Polar Star.

Good thought.

The army good conduct medal didn't exist in this era.

Jan's tale is the scary one. Let him answer. My last time there (last March) all the dealers had printouts of Igor's site and priced accordingly, though they were holding onto their SBs, waiting for prices to rise even more.

That seems a fair analysis, Jan. To a considerable degree, I suspect we are just seeing supply and demand, especially for the older (screwback) awards. For SBs (as for everything else), the days of easy availability at low prices are long past. Just remember what they sold for your first time in UB?! Pondering doing a JOMSA article on the SB which may impact the market. As we know, once you have seen a SB, . . .

That much will, I think, be coming fairly soon, as research opens up.

Good timing for this thread. (?) Ian Smith has just died. Some may consider that bad news? It is historically noteworthy nevertheless.

Fascinating! Though the visas are always as interesting as the passports.

Have checked . . . and lucky for him, unlucky for you, he is not to be found on the POW list. With such a low regimental number, he may have left service before Kut?

The problem is that the award numbers and serial numbers in the Sky Blue Bible don't match, quite The three I have: #38 - 95.37 #52 - 109.51 #79 - 137.79 No one (so far) can quite figure out what these goofy serial numbers relate to. The highest number in the serial numbers in the book is 381 (a 2006 award), so your 420 may well be an unissued Bank escapee. (Though they are still being awarded, I think.) If (and this is a BIG IF) 373 is 373, then:

He is, indeed, a sepoy (= infantry private) in the 110th Maratha Light Infantry. In WWI they served in India and in Mespootamia and were captured at Kut. There is no link between him and the fellow you found in the CWGC lists. Cross your fingers while I dig out that Kut POW roll and check him . . . .