Stijn David

Hello, I did find the following on ebay, oh yeah pnce again It is a fact that these things do belong togheter and they make a nice combo for sure - just it is to much to see these become split up : * EK 2 http://cgi.ebay.de/Eisernes-Kreuz-zweiter-...1QQcmdZViewItem * Orden vom Z?hringer L?we 2 e Klasse mit Schwertern http://cgi.ebay.de/Orden-vom-Zahringer-Loe...1QQcmdZViewItem * Furstliche Hausorden vom Hohenzollern - Ehrenkreuz 3 e Klasse mit Schwertern http://cgi.ebay.de/Fuerstlich-Hohenzollers...1QQcmdZViewItem * Hindenburg http://cgi.ebay.de/Ehrenkreuz-fuer-Frontka...1QQcmdZViewItem * Wound badge - black http://cgi.ebay.de/Verwundetenabzeichen-er...1QQcmdZViewItem * small medal bar http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...p;rd=1&rd=1 This grouping did obviously belong togheter, the award documents are the proof that we are talking about the very same soldier - please someone do reunite these (i am tempted but money is killing me at this point Cordial greetings,

Hello, Here is the piece earned by Leutnant der Reserve Oskar Morath (Artillerie officer), as wel as his EK 2 + ribbon bar. Cordial greetings,

Hello, And here we have the former owner (picture is from his Wehrpass - arround 1940) As far as i do know at this point he did his duty during WWI and was to be found on the following tehaters of war: 1915 : Hartsmannwillerkopf 1916 :Verdun 1917 : Arras Then 1918 no other trace to be found - only that he was demobilized ahort after the end of WWI. I do know that he received 2 awards and thats it (the 2 shown in this thread), hopefully research will bring more about this person as it is always nice to see a order come alive again - especially when it does hold such beauty Obviously a older man (at that time 55 years old) and a smart guy / Professor (altough it is unclear for me in what) Cordial greetings,

Hello, Thank you both for the comments, i am surprised by the way these are constructed. No picture can show it. This one did strike me due to the way it is conserved + because it has a background (WP from the original recipient is also with it) . I have been looking for quite some times for such a beauty (OZL), they have become more and more expensive and i am just as happy with only one => hopefully it can multiply but iff not, just as well Cordial greetings,

Hello, This OZL was awarded 14.01.1916 towards Leutnant Morath - unit listed: fu?artillerie-batterei nr. 361 Please also find his EK 2 + his small ribbon bar. No further awards are known,etc ... but at least the history behind this beauty is known or we have a strartingpoint for research. Cordial greetings,

Hello, And here is the reverse, the order on its own seems to have been kept with care as it is near prisitine, for me it is certainly one the best looking awards i am able to hold Cordial greetings,

Hello, Here is my first Orden vom Z?hringer L?we, awarded towards Leutnant der Reserve Oskar Morath !! Cordial greetings,

Hello, And here we have his "Z?hringer L?we", it is my first and i must say that i am stumped by the quality of these pieces. They (=OZL) are so delicate and beautifull (at least towards me). The pictures (scans) do not do justice to the beauty of the award. Cordial greetings,

Hello, Please meet herr Professor Oskar Morath Anyone a idea how it would be able to find out in what he was a Professor? (most probably impossible but you never know?) Cordial greetings, ps: i was lazy and have taken the picture from the former owner.

Hello, Well i can add finally a bit more info on dr. Oskar Morath. He was born : 22.04.1885 He was drafted into the army at 01.10.1908 - Fussart. Regt. 14 Units as known: - 1914 & 1915 / F.A.R. 14 - 1916 / F.A.R. 16 - 1917 / Inf. Brigade d. 34 Inf. Div. ( ????) - 1917 / Fussart. BAttr. 361 - 1917 & 1918 / Landw. Fussart. Batl. 29 I do not know how the entry : Inf. brigade d. 34 Inf. Div does fit in? - hopefully you guys can teach me? As for know promotions at this time: 30.09.1909 : Unteroffizier 05.08.1914 : Vizefeldwebel 21.02.1915 : Leutnant He was demobilized at 16.12.1918 + seemed to have survived the madness of WWI without a scratch (at least no entry about wounds etc ... are to be found Battle-entry's: 1915 : Gefecht am Hartmannswillerkopf 1916 : Schlacht bei Verdun 1917 : Fr?hjahrsschlacht bei Arras He also must have been entitled to receive the Hindenburg, but no entry + no medal present in his legacy. Im looking forward towards all new info that can be added. Cordial greetings, He held the title of Professor at 1940 (and also dr.) - altough i do not know in what ?

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Hello, The images for Henrik. Cordial greetings,

Hello, Very interesting thread and nice pieces Chris, congrats on these baby's + the history that stick to them are for sure a bonus. Indeed one does wonder iff these guys ever had the time to rest, teh answer is in most cases rather easy => no they did not have the time, mission after mission had te be flewn resulting in a total breakdown of good crews due to over exhausting. There are numerous occasions known where this did result in a complete loss of a plane and the crew killed. Sad but true Cordial greetings + thanks for showing,

Hello John, Thank you for that nice link, interesting to see these guys flying, jumping and running arround in real life for once. However pure propaganda it is a interesting look for sure !!! Cordial greetings,

Hello, Thank you for both answers => very interesting (im a bit a WWI dummy, as WWII is my main collecting interest but once so often im blinded by imperial beauty ) Very nice info to see when our object of research was promoted from Vizefeldwebel towards Leutnant der Reserve. I also did receive the following info in the meanwhile: This person should be mentioned (his award of the OZL) in the "Staatsanzeiger f?r das Grossherzogtum Baden, Sonderdruck I/1916", page 20 !!! He was awarded his EK 2 on 25.07.1915 So the ploth thickens => hopefully more will be found in a while Cordial greetings,

Hello Glenn, Thank you in advance for the search => looking forward towards what you might find Anyway i have received the following info already on our Leutnant der R. He apparently received the OZL on : 14.01.1916 - unit listed: fu?artillerie-batterei nr. 361 Does that info fit in the above given ? Cordial greetings,

Hello David, Thank you for that info, i do not know much more at this point but this mans Wehrpass (WP) is on its it way towards me (should receive it during the next 2 weeks). I hope that more info is written down altough i doubt that to much detail will be given as the WP is a WWII issue. Anyway i will write down all i have as it is written down. Cordial greetings,

Hello, Thank you for the search in teh FAR 14 book. He was part of that unit for the periods: 1908 - 1909 and 05.08.1914 towards 01.02.1915 Any idea on what battles this regt. was involved during the mentionde period? He was then part of the FAR 16 from: 01.02.1915 towards 28.08.1916 Cordial greetings,

Hi David, Thank you, yes sure i have some info on this person: Known awards: * EK 2 (awarded 1915) * OZL - Knight (awarded early 1916) Known units: * F.A.R. 14 * F.A.R. 16 Hopefully this will help a bit? Are these guys (der Reserve) also listed in Ranklists of some kind? Cordial greetings,

Hello, Is there anyone who can help me with finding out information on the following Officer: Leutnant der Reserve Oskar Morath (Baden). Cordial greetings,

Hello, The ribbon bar arrived yesterday !!! Here is a scan of the 2 eagle devices. They are both golden so they depict : * Long Service: 25 years * Long Service : 12 years The unever fading => probably due to different manufactering (or one is replaced at some time?), as the eagle's also do show different features. Cordial greetings,

Italian crown order ... Thank you both fine gentlemen for the comments @ Hendrik: you might be able to see the bar in real life at the end of the month => mayby worth bringing our Itlian crown orders with us to compare a bit? Cordial greetings,

Hello, And a closer look at the crown order. A bit worn and very patinated but just as beautifull as it should be Cordial greetings,

Hello, Very good thread => her eis a Italian crown order (officer grade) mounted on a German medal bar Cordial greetings,