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HMS AJAX

HMS ARK ROYAL

So here's some of the tallies I received. HMS Exeter Regards, JustinG

This is turning to be exactly what I am wanting. With regard to the "dots", am I correct in my assumption that it refers to the holes left where the stitching goes back and forth within the various letters and punctuation? Quite an interesting study. I have been focused for so long on Kriegsmarine tallies and have now just started venturing out to the Royal Navy. I am expecting the 4 tallies purchased to arrive here some time soon. Posted is an example of what I am assuming I have understood regarding the "dots". This is a WW1 Naval German battery division Thank you for your explanation. Regards, JustinG 2dresq

Thank you for posting. The variations really are quite different. The British seemed to have a much looser standard than other countries. The Sea Cadets and HMS Marlbourough would be considered fake on construction alone if they were German made. The German liner is interesting. I only own 3 German Passenger ship talllies: The KdF W.Gustloff, Cap Arcona, and KdF Robert Ley. Never seen a muetzenband with the double words above and below. Thanks for sharing. So, is there construction standard for HMS warships for the pre WW2 and WW2 era that was followed? The Germans Strictly removed the named muetzenbands when the war started to protect the secrecy and prevent spies from being able to identify what ships were in port, and so, they went to the standard Kriegsmarine labeled muetzenband/tally; did the British do the same thing with the solo H.M.S labeling? I have seen a couple of these around. Thank you for your time. Very interesting stuff. Oh, Here's a reverse shot of the KdF ship. Wilhelm Gustloff which of course, was the worst maritime single loss of life ever.

Could you post reverse stitching of one of your tallies please. Regards, JustinG

I agree. The back construction looked good. However, I was aware. I didn't pay too much. A study of construction would be very helpful though. Here's a close up of the stitching of a German Kriegsmarine tally. The one showing the reverse is Metalfaden thread. the lower obverse is cellon construction. Both are of the Panzerschiff Deutschland

This is very nice. Thanks for sharing. I purchased four tallies: HMS Ark Royal, HMS Rodney, HMS Ajax and HMS Exeter. These are of course all very well known ships. I purchased them from a reputable dealer. When they finally arrive in my hands I will post scans/photos of them. Hopefully, the dealer will continue in my eyes, to be reputable. I am hoping to make a tribute to the Battle of the River Plate. So, I need the Achilles and perhaps the Cumberland tallies as well. :)

Greetings, I am looking at acquiring some Royal Navy tallies. I have studied the German tallies and have made a practice of recognizing a good one of these. However, with the Royal Navy, since several ships have been commissioned with the same name as some WW1 and WW2 names. Is there a method of how to detect if this tally is a period WW2 item or if it is post war? Thanks, JustinG 2dresq

Could you take a shot of the rather large wimple displayed. I have never seen one that large before. Everyone has already said it. This is a magnificent collection. Regards, JustinG

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I don't have a U-flottille Weddigen spare. I only had a spare Unterseeboot schule tally. www.weitze.net has three currently for sale. Here's a link for the 300 version. Pretty nice condition. https://www.weitze.n...__144983_e.html Regards, JustinG

I am truly sorry to hear about your wife and your misfortune. That is a very touching thing she did getting you that Scharnhorst tally. It looks in incredible condition. As for price, That was quite a nice bargain price IMO. A tally like this generally goes for around 200-250 Euro, some dealers have them listed for 300 Euro. You got quite a deal with this one. A nice Panzerschiff one from the Admiral Scheer and Deutschland are more available than period Admiral Graf Spee which can run into bigger bucks since they are more coveted. The Schlachtschiff muetzenbands are limited and don't turn up as often. The Scharnhorst is more common to find, than the Gneisenau. This is a great looking muetzenband and will hold special significance since it was a gift from your wife. (She did good ) Best of luck to you and your family and congratulations on acquiring such a nice tally. Regards, Justin 2dresq

Good to know: Thanks! Regards, JustinG

So I have added two other additions: A metalfaden version of the Linienschiff Hannover and I got the U=begleitschiff Erwin Wassner. So, These are the ones I have remaining: Unterseebootstender Mosel U=Begleitschiff Waldemar Kophamel U=Begleitschiff Otto Wuensche U=Begleitschiff Wilhelm Bauer. If any of you come across these, I would be grateful. I am also missing 5 destroyer tallies. Thanks for looking, JustinG

Well, I was finally able to obtain a period Unterseebootsflottille Emsmann muetzenband. That completes the named U-Flottille's. I am very fortunate. Regards, Justin 2dresq

So Arne, Do you have the photos professionally matted and then place the Muetzenband yourself in position? Do you do this all yourself? Stunning and quality displays. Regards, JustinG

Very nice buckles. Regards, JustinG

My favorite. Regards, JustinG

I have always been partial to the Junker style. That Eagles head is, in my opinion, much better cast and more daunting. Nice trio. Regards, JustinG 2dresq

Arne, That is the best picture/painting proof I have seen. Always makes me envious. Great job. Justin G

Here's the obverse. (Tim Ball's) Collection. Thanks, JustinG 2dresq

Always learning more. I had seen some of these with this kind of configuration where there is not the block/barrel hinge set-up. Gordon, Do you feel that these are just too controversial and have been perhaps compromised with post war pieces that it makes it difficult to know originality? Here was the bird that I was referencing off which appears to be similar to the one that Peter displayed. This comes from Tim Ball's collection. Thanks gentlemen. Regards, JustinG 2dresq

I for one, like it! These breast eagles dress up a display nicely. I am not sure if there has ever been a maker attributed to these. I have a few metal eagles. Mine are all maker marked of the KM variety. Here is a link to a discussion that was had over at WAF. http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501916&highlight=Maker+KM+eagle This also has some great photos shown of various eagles and designs. Best regards, JustinG 2dresq