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    paja

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    1. Golden Medal for Merits awarded to the 250th Air Defense Missile Brigade on November 24, 2015. That unit managed to shoot down F117 and F16 during 1999. It's one of the rare units awarded with Order of the People's Hero, its ribbon is incorporated in brigade's emblem.
    2. 224th Electronic Warfare Center was also awarded with Order of Merits in Defense and Security 3rd class last year. We can see one more Order of the War Banner but this time 3rd class on the unit's flag.
    3. Here's one more where we can see the other side of the flag. Brigade level units received new, consecrated flags on April 23, 2015, Serbian Armed Forces Day, exactly 200 years after the Second Serbian Uprising.
    4. I stumbled upon this interesting photo on Serbian Armed Forces' website. Special Brigade was decorated with Order of Merits in Defense and Security 3rd class on September 29, 2016 (10 years since it's creation). We can see Order of the War Banner 1st class awarded to 72nd Special Brigade on June 16, 2000 and Order of National Hero awarded to 63rd Parachute Brigade on October 19, 1999. Special Brigade in it's current form was created on September 29, 2006 out of 72nd Special Brigade, 63rd Paratroop Brigade, Cobra anti-terrorist squad and parts of the 82nd Marine Center.
    5. These Partisan Stars started appearing recently, they are being offered as replicas.
    6. Those are basically three-pieces orders, there's the base (star), round piece (wreath), and central part (torches, shield and swords). The central parts are probably made out of tombac, base is silver (until 1981) but how about the wreath? I've seen five torches orders with hallmarks on back sides of both the base and the wreath. Speaking of hallmarks I have one pre-1963 silver piece without them.
    7. Looks like there's one more like that on sammler (photos found there), unfortunately there's no photo of the front side and I'm not sure if it's gilded or not. The main difference are those attaching thingies on the back side.
    8. One of these days I'll visit the Belgrade Military Museum and Aeronautical Museum and post more photos. I've been planing to do that for years.
    9. You are welcome. Unfortunately I still don't have a copy of that book, I mainly use the other one that you have mentioned, that's probably the best source of information for now. Sammler is excellent, definitely the best online catalog of Yugoslav decorations but there are some minor inaccuracies. If I'm not mistaken they state that only the first class order has a variant made out of bronze while the rest of the classes were made out of silver which doesn't make sense, at least to me. Also they state that the second class was awarded 1300 times and third 1443 but it's the other way around, II class 1443 times, III 1300. I think the following orders were made out of tomac or bronze in the '80s: -Military Merits I (1981-1985) II & III (1981-1992) -National Army II & III (1981-1992), I are silver -Labor Order I (1981-1985), II & III were made out of tombac even before -Merits for the People II & III (1981-1992), when it comes to I - IKOM pieces with double horizontal needle are definitely silver but I'm not sure about ZIN with vertical needle (I'm speaking of the last types, not those remade ones), it's quite possible that all I are silver -Order of Republic II (1981-1992), I think there are also first class orders made out of tombac
    10. Greetings Richard, First of all, may I ask which book are you using? Is it perhaps "Orders and Medals of the Communist Yugoslavia" (Ордена и медали коммунистической Югославии)? It is true that some of the Yugoslav decorations were made out of tombac in the '80s but I don't think that's the case with the Yugoslavian Flag. Also according to the Statute of the order from '86 all five classes should be silver. -I class star: silver base, central part (small wreath with flag) copper-zinc alloy (tombac?) -I class badge: gilded silver There are examples without silver hallmarks out there but that doesn't mean that they are not made out of silver. As far as I know badge of the first class was never in the silver form (not gilded).
    11. There's a list of Mihailo's decorations on Serbian Wiki page, I'm pretty sure it didn't exist when I started this topic... Here's the LINK, the list is the same so I don't know how reliable it is, I think someone just used information from this topic, anyway Nevsky's on it. I think this coat of arms is also new, I don't remember seeing it before, one can see Russian Order of St. Andrew on it?! Looks amateurish to me...
    12. 1: Order of Osmanieh (Ottoman Empire) 2: ??? (#1 in the previous post) 3: Order of Leopold (Austria) 4: Order of the White Eagle (Russia) 5: St. Maurice and Lazarus (Italy) 6: St. Anna (Russia) 7: Order of Redeemer (Greece) 8: Order of Danilo (Montenegro) 9: Takovo
    13. Same problem as before, based on another image I presume he's wearing the following miniatures: 1: ??? 2: Order of Leopold (Austria) 3: Order of the White Eagle (Russia) 4: St. Anna (Russia) 5: Order of Redeemer (Greece) 6: Order of Danilo (Montenegro) 7: Takovo
    14. It's hard to determine which miniatures is he wearing based on this photo, I presume Russian St. Anna & White Eagle and Greek Order of Redeemer... He's wearing both miniatures of the stars and miniatures of the badges.
    15. Thank you very much, Igor! Amazing research! I've found a few more Brits awarded with the Montenegrin Silver Bravery Medal.
    16. Once again, thank you so much for images from Delande's catalog! I hope you won't mind me asking you again, but are there other Montenegrin decorations in that catalog?
    17. It's Cyrillic signature ЂЈ 1912. ЂЈ or ĐJ are the author's initials, Ђорђе Јовановић (Đorđe Jovanović). Anyway, very nice medal!
    18. Very interesting TV show about two former Nebojša crew members made in 2003 LINK. When the command gave the order to surrender the submarine to Italians 19 out of 54 crew members disobeyed it and went first to Crete and then to Alexandria to join the allies. They took a lot of other people with them, navy and officers of other branches. Corvette lieutenant Ivan Mišković remained active during the war outside Yugoslavia. When he returned home in 1946 he had troubles with the new communist authorities, even spent some time in the solitary confinement. On the other hand Jovan Trbojević was first trained by the British in Palestine and then parachuted into mountains of Montenegro in 1942 where he joined Yugoslav Army in the Fatherland. After the war he remained outside Yugoslavia. Nebojša was brought back to Yugoslavia in 1945 where the Yugoslav Navy used it for training under a a new name, Tara, until 1954-5 when it was decommissioned and later cut up for scrap.
    19. Flag from the royal submarine Nebojša and submarine badge, looks like M1937 Sokol society flag Source: http://www.muzej.mod.gov.rs/en/museum-activity/exhibitions/the-april-war-1941#.WO4kl_mGO70
    20. POW items Generals' šajkača cap Royal Navy saber and corvette captain shoulder boards
    21. Exhibition "The April War" from 2011 held at the Belgrade Military Museum. Flag from 1930 Model of the river monitor Drava Junkers JU87 tail
    22. Looks like one more Serbian recipient, artillery 2nd lieutenant, uniform from 1900. Second foreign order might be Medjidie. Historical Museum of Serbia
    23. Apologies for the wrong attribution, thanks for the correction. I remember reading an article about Mozaffar ad-Din Shah Qajar's visit to Serbia in 1900. Perhaps Esmail Momtaz od-Dowleh was decorated with Takovo on that occasion.
    24. Greetings Mark and welcome to GMIC. Amazing photography of your ancestor, thank you for sharing it with us. I've been able to identify two decorations, Serbian Order of the Cross of Takovo 1st class and Bulgarian Order of the Civil Merit 2nd class (so-called princely type). I'm not sure about the rest, images are little bit blurry. As for the decorations on the back side of the photo, second one from the left looks like Montenegrin Order of Danilo and third one is Ottoman Order of the Medjidie. Regards
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