Kev in Deva

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Just in the door, two other Class 3 alongside the one I had yesterday, and with noticeable difference. Pine branch represented in black as opposed to green. Number 3 is smaller but defined thicker. The position of the crest is lower, but this I think due to sloppy workmanship. I believe these are Grade badges for proficiency in the specific trade, similar to those seen for Communications, radar operator, mechanic, etc..etc.. examinations had to be passed before getting a higher grade. Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

http://www.emedals.ca/index.asp Barry Turk - OMSA #7612, OMRS # 7900 I have a Romanian bar in my possession that was bought back in 2003 via "emedals" it was a problem free transaction, however, in and around that period "emedals" were regularly offering quite a few Romanian Imperial bars each month, many I presume having been obtained from the many Romanian citizens emigrating to Canada for work, I have no intention of implying "emedals" knowingly sold a modern put together, as in all reality in this period, very little was known about Romanian WW1 or WW2 awards. Its quite possible (to use a term from our old friend Rick Research), Romanian "monkey fingers" were at work long before the item arrived in Canada. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2991&hl=japanese+order Post 4, page 1 from March 1 2006 features the same bar as post 1 in this topic. There is another comment on Post 4, page 2.posted on April 3rd 2006. I am 100% sure I saw the same medal bar being offered in the past by ebay seller "e-medals" Kevin in Deva. :beer:

R.S.R. ALPINIST MILITAR INSIGNIA. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-950-0-28882300-1295562143.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-950-0-08223400-1295562227.jpg for starters a Grade 3. It may have had a coat of varnish applied post issue, as these were notorious for losing the "painted" enamel. Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

:speechless1: !!!!DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!!!! I believe this very bar was featured on a Romanian Military Forum in the past year or so and the opinion there as far as I recall was that it was a total fantasy put together, particularly so because of the Japanese item. I believe it was being sold via "e-medals" of Canada in the past as well. To late tonight (00:15) to search the Romanian forum will have a look tomorrow. Also Number 7 was never intended to be worn as a medal, I believe they were for donations made for the Airforce to enable procurement of equipment, it has a very strange ribbon ring set up that just will not allow it to hang straight. As Germany were the Number 1 ally I would expect the Iron Cross to precede the Japanese award, but that's my own opinion, and it could be wrong. Also the class of Air medal at the front of the bar I think was for non-commissioned men. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Watch this space as I hope to add class III in the next couple of weeks. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

Kevin in Deva :cheers:

In the door today:- Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

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Under the padded inner I found the original owners brevet. The guys family name translates to Mr. Christmas. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

Presenting the Romanian Military award:- Medalia "VIRTUTEA OSTASEASCA" which comes in three classes, Kevin in Deva. :beer:

One thing I did notice between the screw-back and broach-pin back is the colour of the ears of corn are different, the broach back being a light green colour. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Kevin in Deva :cheers:

Kevin in Deva :cheers:

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-950-0-02935100-1295542891.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-950-0-81875100-1295542989.jpg A period repair to the screw and not an indication of a convert from broach fastening. Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

Just adding a few pictures of items in my possession:- http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-950-0-94085000-1295542734.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-950-0-04349700-1295542753.jpg This badge was worn by a Romanian Lt-col of the Engineers, a man known to me personally. Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

Many thanks for the above identification:- With regards number 2, I believe its official designation to be:- Knight Commanders Badge, Neck badge (Military) a star with a gold Maltese cross omitted, and in the shape of a cross pattèe, the three crowns and the motto in the centre surrounded by a green enamelled laurel wreath. Holders of the K.C.B. wear a neck badge suspended by a ribbon as well as a breast star. Number 3 is the Romanian Order of MIHAI VITEAZUL / Michael the Brave.

The name of the Jewish officer is given as: Lieutenant Hugo Gutmann In THE LIFE AND DEATH OF ADOLF HITLER By Robert Payne 445-08254-195, Page 113 Chapter The Dispatch Runner.From page 118:- According to Mend, Hitler cordially disliked Hugo Gutmann and refused to salute him. One day Mend and Hitler met in the street and began talking. Gutmann strode past, expecting to be saluted, but Hitler paid no attention to him. The adjutant was annoyed and threatened him with punishment. Hitler simply shrugged his shoulders and resumed his conversation with Mend, saying "I recognise these Jews as officers only in the firing line." The war fed his bitterness against the Jews, for he (Hitler believed they always got the "cushy jobs" He received the Iron Cross Ist Class on the recommendation of First Lieutenant Hugo Gutman*, (who was Jewish) who had ordered him to carry urgent dispatches to the rear, commanding the artillerymen to stop shelling the German forward trenches. There had been a breakdown in communications, the artillery men did not know there had been a slight German advance and many German soldiers had been killed by German shells. The patch of ground between Lt. Gutmans dug-out and the base artillery was under heavy English-machine gun fire, and the dispatch runner who crossed that patch of ground would have to be a very courageous man indeed. Lt. Gutmann promised Hitler the Iron Cross I Class, if he succeeded. Hitler accomplished the task and Lt. Gutmann kept his promise. The citation, dated July 31, 1918 was signed by Baron von Godin, the regimental commander, and read as follows: "As a dispatch runner, he has shown cold-blooded courage and exemplary boldness in positional warfare and in the war of movement, and he always volunteered to carry messages in the most difficult situations and at the risk of his life. Under conditions of great peril, when all the communications lines were cut, the untiring and fearless activity of Hitler made it possible for important messages to go through." According to one source on the internet: "Hugo Gutmann was Hitler's immediate superior officer from January 29 to August 31, 1918. His military papers have been preserved, and they tell that he was born on November 19, 1880 in Nuremberg as the son of the shop-keeper Salomon Gutmann and his wife Emma. He himself stated his religion as Jewish. In 1902 he volunteered for the army and was appointed non-commissioned officer, before he in 1904 was transferred to the reserve. At the outbreak of war in 1914 Hugo Gutmann was called up and soon after he was transferred to Regiment List. On April 15, 1915, he was promoted to lieutenant, and after that he acted as adjutant for the regiment's artillery battalion. On the same day as Hitler received his Iron Cross, the regimental commander, Freiherr von Tubeuf, wrote a recommendation on Gutmann which shows his energy as a front officer. Gutmann was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd class on December 2, 1914, incidentally the same day as Hitler - and the Iron Cross 1st class on December 4, 1915. MORE:- "Hugo Gutmann was still unmarried when, at the age of 38, he was demobilized on February 8, 1919. He married the year after and his wife later bore two children. Late in 1933 he asked the Bavarian War Archives for a copy of his military papers - probably in order to take advantage of President Hindenburg's stubborn defense of the civil rights of the Jewish war veterans. Hugo Gutmann at that time owned an office-furniture shop in Vordere Steingasse 3 in Nuremberg. Together with his family he escaped in 1939 to Belgium, and in 1940 he came to the United States, where he changed his name to Henry G. Grant. According to the historian Werner Maser, he received - by Hitler's intervention - a pension from the Third Reich down to the end of the war." However, the author of the above makes it clear that, despite the possible assistance regarding the pension, Hitler's feelings about Gutmann may have been rather complex and far from warm. If you are interested, I suggest you take a look at the entirety of the fairly long article from which I took the above, located at: http://holocaust-info.dk/shm/2_uk.htm (Link now non-operational) (Originally posted by Member JAMES AXIS HISTORY FORUM in 2002.) Another source refered too:- Other known military awards to Hitler:- * Hitlers II Class Iron Cross award was for interposing his body between enemy fire directed at Lieutenant-Colonel Englehardt while at Wytschaete Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Any markings on the small buttons of the cap apart from the Communist Star? Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

Hi Gordon, thanks for the correction with regards my erroneous id of the medal ribbon. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Are issued medals to be engraved with the soldiers details? Kevin in Deva :cheers:

The white "helmet" seems to have an odd shape to it, how about a French Colonial I tropical sunhat?, perhaps these troops have moved into a recently vacated French Barracks to do a course, While at first glance the Shako is typical I believe for German Police units, when cropped and enlarged there appears to be a tri-color Rosette and under this a hole in the material where the insignia has been removed, the bill / peak of the shako is also more rectangular in shape than the one on a Police shako. I think they are all sporting items of French military headgear, as why would P.O.W.s be posing with French items? Kevin in Deva, :beer: