Imperial Medals Id ?

[Djedj]

Hi,

I have this CDV photo of an Imperial era Ulan.

The photo was taken in Stuttgart - from the look of the CDV I'd say it was likely taken round the early 1870s.

The name had been written on the back of the photo, sadly it has almost disappeared (though it looks like it could be saying "Prinz ...")

I'd like to find out the Regiment and the identity of the guy of course ; but to begin with, does anyone have an idea of the medals he is sporting ?

Thanks !

Jerome

[Christophe]

He wears them on his right chest. Is it normal ? Or is it a "negative" effect ?

Ch.

Edited July 31, 2006 by Christophe

[Djedj]

He wears them on his right chest. Is it normal ? Or is it a "negative" effect ?

Ch.

Bonsoir Christophe,

It is not a negative effect (or the order of the medals would be terribly wrong).

Medals on the right side are actually quite often seen on photos of Ulanen.

Fact is that in full dress, Ulans had the most impressive knots at the end of their cap lines, falling from their left shoulder - those would have obscured medals worn on the left side of the chest.

My take is that it's what displaced the medals ?

But in any case, it's quite usual.

Jerome

[Christophe]

(...)Medals on the right side are actually quite often seen on photos of Ulanen.

Fact is that in full dress, Ulans had the most impressive knots at the end of their cap lines, falling from their left shoulder - those would have obscured medals worn on the left side of the chest.

My take is that it's what displaced the medals ? (...)

J?r?me,

Many thanks. this seems quiet logical... and, here, I learnt something .

Again, many thanks.

Ch.

[Djedj]

My pleasure !

An example (from Weitze) :

Jerome

[Christophe]

Clear demonstration... but it does not answer your question about the medals...

Ch.

[Daniel Murphy]

I would say the medals are 1. Red eagle order with crown. 2. 1870 EK2 3. 1870-71 Kriegsdenkmunze. 4. Schaumburg-Lippe Military Merit medal with crossed sabers. He is a Hauptmann probably of the Koenigs Uhlanen Regiment (1 Hannoversches) Nr. 13. It is hard to say, but that could be white facings.

Dan Murphy

Edited July 31, 2006 by Daniel Murphy

[Guest Rick Research]

First is the W?rttemberg Military Merit Order, Knight. This old style with the jagged crwon and on a dark blue ribbon (remember the color spectrums shift weirdly in old photos), then EK2, then W?rttemberg Campaign Medal (probably for 1866), then the Schaumburg-Lippe Medal.

That combination should CERTAINLY be traceable... with a circa 1871 Rank List!

he has not received his Empire 1870/71 War Medal yet, so very soon after the war, I'd say or even late during it.

You may get a better image of the erased pencil by putting this on an ordinary xerox machine.

It certainly looks like

"Prinz (Illegible)

v. W?rttemberg" to me

I'll see if I can find him 1890+-- that is the earliest I have.

[Dave Danner]

He died in 1877 so he may never have received his Prussian KDM.

He is not a prince, but a duke: Herzog Eugen von W?rttemberg, born 20 August 1846 and died 27 January 1877. His mother was Princess Mathilde zu Schaumburg-Lippe, which explains the Schaumburg-Lippe connection.

He, his wife and his EK and WMV: http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/wuert...eugenwuertt.jpg

Edited August 1, 2006 by Dave Danner

[Djedj]

Thanks a lot gentlmen !

I didn't really hope for an identification, but there you go

As for the "Prinz" question - my understanding is that a son of a Duke would be titled "Prinz" until inheriting from the Dukedom (Eugen's father died in 1875) - though it may be better not to quote me on that

Thanks again for your help,

Jerome