Alexandre Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Hello GentlemenBeria was chief of NKVD during WW2 and held the rank of Marshal of SU in July/1945.He received these decorations :Hero of Socialist Work (30.09.1943), 5 awards of Lenin, 2 awards of the Red Banner, Suvorov's award of 1-st degree, Awards of the Labour Red Banner of Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia and more 7 medals.Does anybody know what these medals are??Thx in advanceRegardsAlexandre
Christian Zulus Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Dear Alexandre,here are my suggestions about comrade Berija's 7 medals.For sure:- XX years RKKA- 30 years Red Army & Navy- Victory over Germany4 medals missing:I guess, that they might be defending and/or capture medals. Emphasis on the defending medals. Comrade Stalin got also the "Defending-Moscow-Medal". Specially in the "defending-period" of the GPW Berija's NKVD played a crucial role, i.e.: Stalingrad, if you remember the great movie "Enemy at the Gates" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215750/ . Maybe :- Stalingrad- Caucasus- Moscow- LeningradBest regardsChristian Zulus
Alfred Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) Berija: 1899 - 19531945 Marshall SUOrders:HSL no: 80 - 01.10.1943Lenin no: 1.236 - 22.02.1935Lenin no: 14.836 - 01.10.1943Lenin no: 27.006 - 21.02.1945Lenin no: 94.311 - 25.03.1949Lenin no: 118.679 - 18.10.1949Red Banner: no 7.034 - 03.04.1924Red Banner 2: no 11.517 - 03.11.1944Sovorow 1st class: no 217 - 08.03-1944Stalin Prize medal 1st class - 20.10.1949Republic awards:Red Banner of Labour Aserbaidshan - 14.03.1932Red Banner Georgia - 03.07.1923Red Banner of Labour Georgia - 12.04.1931Order of the Republic of Tuwinia (TAR) - 18.08.1043Medals:20 years RKKADefense of MoscowDefence of StalingradDefence of CaucasusVictory over Germany800 years Moscow medal30 years Red Army & NavyBadges:5 years GPU no: 100 - 05.11.192315 years GPU no: 205 - 14.12.1932regardsAndreas Edited October 9, 2006 by Alfred
Guest RedThreat Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 In case someone is interested in Russian opinion about Enemy at the Gates: http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?option...108&lang=enThe review was translated to English by Google auto-translator.Simon
Christian Zulus Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Dear Simon,many thanks for your link, which was new to me. But I still think, it is a great movie, but like all movies about the GPW from the West with a lot of (very) significant shortcomings as usual and a tendency to be critical with the Soviet system due to the sources where the finances were coming from for this french production. I appreciate the movie, because:- it shows the perspective from the Soviet side- excellent director- excellent camera- excellent castI also think, that the role of NKVD was presented rather correct in that movie: It was a critical period for the CCCP and the NKVD had to take "special" measurements.O.K., you can not compare "Enemy at the Gates" to Yuri Oserov's epic masterpiece "Liberation", the Soviet - almost 8 hours long - immaculate movie from the late 60's, which shows the story of the GPW from the battle of Kursk (summer 1943) till the Red Flag at the Reichstag in Berlin. Since 2005 there is a german beautiful - nice booklet + bonus-DVD - DVD-box with that Oserov movie at the market: http://www.amazon.de/Befreiung-Teil-1-5-6-...=UTF8&s=dvd . All orders & medals are presented in the correct way ...Coming back to Berija http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrenty_Pavlovich_Beria and http://www.diacritica.com/degenerate/9/beria.html . I think, that he got his last 2 Lenins + Stalin Prize 1cl for the nuclear weapons developement in the CCCP. Berija was in the "Inner Circle" around Stalin responsible for the A-Bomb. The question is, why didn't he got his 2nd HSL for the A-Bomb? O.K., Stalin Prize 1cl + 2 Lenins is something special, but all other comrades involved with the developement of the Soviet A-Bomb received a HSL. The fact is, that Berija lost some of his political power in the early 50's - in Stalin's view Berija was too a-political, not a Bolshevisk, pro-western, morally insane and a monster (responsible for the "Great Purge", Katyn, etc., etc.). Enough for not-receiving a HSL?Best regardsChristian Zulus
Christian Zulus Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Lieber Andreas,from which source did you get such precise informations about the awards of comrade Berija? Do you have also some citations?Beste Gr??e von Wien nach K?lnChristian
Christophe Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Hi Christian,These are listed in Anatoli Kutsenko's book : "Marschals and Admirals of the Soviet Union" (Aspekt Editions, 2001).Ch.
Christian Zulus Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Many thanks, Christophe!Best regardsChristian
Alexandre Posted October 10, 2006 Author Posted October 10, 2006 (edited) Hello Guys, Super infos Thx a lotAnyone have a picture of Badges of GPU ?RegardsAlexandre Edited October 10, 2006 by Alexandre
Alfred Posted October 10, 2006 Posted October 10, 2006 Hello Guys, Super infos Thx a lotAnyone have a picture of Badges of GPU ?RegardsAlexandreHere are the two badges.regardsAndreas
Alexandre Posted October 11, 2006 Author Posted October 11, 2006 Hello AndreasSuperb pictures, thx a lot.RegardsAlexandre
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