another feldspange ...

[Christian L]

this forum turned out to be a "feldspangen"-forum.

so i'd like to participate on it a bit

here is it:

on the reverse is no needle system - its the type for sewing onto the uniform

[Gerd Becker]

Ooooohhhhh

NICE!

Edited June 28, 2005 by Gerd

[Stogieman]

Hi Christian, welcome to the forum! Nice bar!

[Bob Hunter]

Welcome Christian we've been waiting for you!

[Guest Rick Research]

SSSSSHHHH!!!! Now you've spoiled our "secret!"

What color is the backing material?

I don't find anybody navy (25 and 12?) so it must be army... and they don't show Silesian Eagles.

ALWAYS show me the back so I can do my gnome-work in the Underground Catacombs of the Archives.

I'm back after some hours, and as a PAIR, the "pure Prussian" HHOX and EK are hopeless. Without a photo of this recipient wearing this ribbon bar...

[Christian L]

thanks much for the greetings and comments

here is the other side of the bar (thanks much rick for the help so far - its stunning to me how fast you are - do you still need the rank lists or do you use your brain while your eyes are closed?)

thanks much! christian

[Guest Rick Research]

Ah yes, the Amazing Rickypowers! Sight unseen I knew it was army!

[Christian L]

unbelievable

is the problem now, that the guy wasn't "brave" enough to get more?

christian

[Guest Rick Research]

No, there must be at least 50 (I gave up as the list lengthened) "possible" army recipients, with NO way to verify the Silesian Eagle unless they made general and have their portraits showing ribbon bars.

It takes a "mix" of awards to trace somebody. "Pure Prussian" is too common.

If it had been navy, that would have been easy for me, because I have the Biblio Verlag admirals' biographies, which LIST Freikorps service, even if no ribbon bars show in the portraits. There were very few navy HHOXs and of course far fewer in the Reichsmarine for a suspects list.

But army showing Freikorps service, that I do not have....

That guy was certainly an Oberst, and almost certainly a General...

but WHO????

I can't identify these two of mine, either--

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the upper one is an (E) officer with only "12," so not in any Rank Lists that show awards, and the lower one is a Prussian/Mecklenburg/25-12 combination that about two dozen officers had, so without finding one in a photo wearing the spindly little Spange and no "flowers" medals... no hope.

Same with this Godet-made (note the WEIRD ?M3K wreath!) wartime WW1 bar-- despite MANY awards (and Daniel Krause has one to the same officer with a couple MORE), he had no post-1918 military career and so THIS cannot be traced, either:

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At least there is some hope that your bar will show up in a General's portrait!

[Christian L]

thanks much for the over all info about ribbon bars.

i've seen it at a dealers table and thought

the condition and all and get it (ok, not really cheap - but whats cheap nowadays)

and with a little hope for the future i will get another happy day then.

but the info i have now is also great!

unbelievable that this nice ribbonbar with the "?schi" and ottoman ribbons is not id able!

but as nice as the other 2

christian

[David S]

I guess there's little (or no) chance to ID these

[David S]

or this

[Christian L]

whats the 3rd ribbon of the ribbon bar with the full size ribbons?

hannover?

perhaps not id able - but nice

[David S]

Hesse-Darmstadt I believe.

Possibly Ordern Phillip des Gro?m?tingen. The only color match I can find.

[Stogieman]

Yes, Phillip's Order with Swords from Hesse