Stogieman Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 on eBay right now:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=170063748938I cannot comment on authenticity, but it looks very interesting. Note the "bottom/foreign" medal bar with DDR, Bulgarian, Mongolian, etc. all mounted on what sure looks like the same unrelated ribbon (???).If someone has better eyes than me, the two S/B award numbers/award dates can be added to our lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 That group has been flogged around for a while, and it's 100% right as far as I know. The price was really, really, really expensive as I remember.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Yowie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Just took a look at the auction and realized it was only for the foreign bar. That is either: 1 - very sad that someone broke up the group or 2 - someone is very enterprising and is selling a duplicate set of foreign awards as none of the s/ns will be traceable. Both options are..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Just took a look at the auction and realized it was only for the foreign bar. That is either: 1 - very sad that someone broke up the group or 2 - someone is very enterprising and is selling a duplicate set of foreign awards as none of the s/ns will be traceable. Both options are..... Right . . . Desecration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) The Order of Polonia Restituta from Poland is on the WRONG ribbon. The Cross is from the PRL (Communist) era. Doc Edited December 26, 2006 by Riley1965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 The Order of Polonia Restituta from Poland is on the WRONG ribbon. DocAll the foreign awards are -- as is common for the Soviet bottom-row practice -- on incorrect ribbons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 The part of this that I found potentially interesting was that if someone has better eyes/software.... we might be able to enlarge the documents and get award dates for the 2 S/B Mongolian pieces?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Makes you wonder why Mongolia even had the 2-3-4 indicated Red Combat Banner's since they "never" seemed to actually been awarded. Here again, he has 2 RCB's of which one is a very recent model... I would have expected that the 2-3-4's would have been in stock so why not give such one instead of just a different new issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Makes you wonder why Mongolia even had the 2-3-4 indicated Red Combat Banner's since they "never" seemed to actually been awarded. Here again, he has 2 RCB's of which one is a very recent model... I would have expected that the 2-3-4's would have been in stock so why not give such one instead of just a different new issue?As with most countries, I think they devoted less attention to odd and exotic foreigners than to their own citizens. And it may have been a function of what the embassy in Moscow held in the valuts. Yet as only some 40 of the "2" were ever awarded, . . . 10-15 of the "3" and 4-5 of the "4" . . . ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usairforce Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Only foreign awards ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 As with most countries, I think they devoted less attention to odd and exotic foreigners than to their own citizens. And it may have been a function of what the embassy in Moscow held in the valuts. Yet as only some 40 of the "2" were ever awarded, . . . 10-15 of the "3" and 4-5 of the "4" . . . ???Are you referring to number of people awarded a second / third / fourth RCB or number of people awarded an RCP with a 2 /3 / 4 at bottom?Also, I've seen above numbers mentioned several times but what's the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Are you referring to number of people awarded a second / third / fourth RCB or number of people awarded an RCP with a 2 /3 / 4 at bottom?Those awarded the "2", "3", or "4" numbered badges. Or, more accurately, and turning that around, the numbers of "2", "3", and "4" badges awarded. The first number is probably unknowable, for photographs (and I refer here of photos of Mongolians, not foreigners) make it clear that numbered subsequent awards weren't consistent. Even Choibalsan's five (5!) RCBs seem to have been unnumbered. Yet Lkhagvasuren's are properly numbered 2-3-4.Also, I've seen above numbers mentioned several times but what's the source?Dr. Battushig. We shall, of course, know more when the registers of awards become available. Unfortuntely, this will also constitute a division in our collections between awarded pieces with history and the unawarded (but still numismtically nice) bank escapees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) Look what the seller answered to somebody.Currently for sale at Ebay is all of the International part of the decorations awarded to Gen. Vasyagin. We can also provide an offer of the rest of the Russian pieces either to highest bidder or to anyone else interested in the complete group, but not before auction end.It must be a scam, it looks like the ribbons were painted red on photoshop.The Karl Marx order is first in on the group and then second on black and white picture? All ribbons have been changed. Edited January 4, 2007 by Soviet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Look what the seller answered to somebody. This whole transaction just smells worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Don't worry Ed. It didn't sold yet. US $3,570.00 Reserve not met Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/attachm...er-mvc-004s.jpgHere's a link to another group... would LOVE to have that one and do the research on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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