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    Posted (edited)

    Hello, Michael, thanks for the great information. I do have a question or two: Many sources say, Lutze joined the army as an officer candidate in 1912, but some sources say Einjährig-Freiwilliger. Seeing he became Postassistant, he could hardly become an officer candidate? So did he return to the Reichspost 1913 and was called to duty 1914 as Unteroffizier der Reserve? Becoming, like Glenn wrote, Vizefeldwebel d. R. and Leutnant d. R.? Any help would be great. Did he have three (Inge, Viktor and Adolf „Addi“) or four children? Thanks! Picture of 1 May 1943, the day of the accident (Leutnant Viktor Jr. seems to be wearing EK2, Panzerkampabzeichen, Riding Badge and Wound Badge in Black):

    Family Lutze, 1 May 1943.jpg

    Edited by Deutschritter
    Posted
    On 10/03/2007 at 01:57, James Clark said:

    wound badge in silver (for the loss of an eye in WWI).

    Hi,

    according to the statues of the VWA for WW1 (AVB 1918, Nr.379 of 1.4.18 (thank you to member Prussian for providing the date) the VWA was awarded thus:
    Schwarz bei ein- und zweimaliger
    mattweiß bei drei- und viermaliger
    mattgelb bei fünf- und mehrmaliger Verwundung.
    Bei Zuerkennung eines höheren Abzeichens ist das bisherige zurückzugeben.

    The German Verlustliste only lists one incident of Lutze being slightly wounded in 1916 (as Vizefeldwebel of 6. Kompanie IR 369 - so he changed units during the war at least once). There must have been at least two more unrecorded incidents, for him to have qualified for the silver VWA. The one he is wearing on the photo was probably accquired after WW1 as it is not solid but holed out, typical for after WW1 purchases.

    GreyC

    Posted

    Hello, Grey, I read somewhere: Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 369, Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 15, where he was promoted to Leutnant der Reserve on 19 January 1917, and the 2. Garde-Reserve-Division ... I am sure Glenn will know more.

    Posted (edited)

    Hi Deutschritter,

    thank you, I checked the units in the meantime. What is a bit dubious are his WIA incidents in WW1 as only one is documented in the Verlustliste and there ought to be three.

    Have a nice Sunday!

    GreyC

    Edited by GreyC
    Posted

    That depends, higher awards (like silver/mattweiß) could be given for only one wound (schwere/schwerste Verwundung), if eye was lost, arm was amputated and so on. Maybe Mike can help with "16.07.1918           Commander’s Cross of the Royal Bulgarian Military Service Order with War Decoration" ... Commander (normally for colonels) for a Leutnant? Or should that read 1938? Thanks!

    Posted
    10 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

    That depends, higher awards (like silver/mattweiß) could be given for only one wound (schwere/schwerste Verwundung), if eye was lost, arm was amputated and so on.

    As I stated above, citing the statuts of the VWA (Verleihungsbedingungen vom 3.3.1918, that was not the case (as opposed to the Verleihungsbedingungen in WW2).

    If you have documents to the contraryI´d be glad to learn more about it.

    Thank you!

    GreyC

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