Guest Rick Research Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 It just tries TOO hard, with TOO much...1) an NSDAP uniformed functionary:OK, there ARE NS long services out there which never had the pointless device for each class cross BUT they are almost always on there. NO device is rather suspicious here when combined with the other questions below.2) Italian War Cross:what, no North Africa medal?3) Croatian war ribbon with swords:surely this--in that spot--is not meant as a legendary Volkspflege-X?????4) Rumanian pair:so, he WAS supposed to have been in the East 1941-42... so when was it he earned #2?5) No backing cloth:not unheard of, but unusual. That's LOTS of unusual/unlikely alllllll on one bar.Looks to me like one of the extremely recent frauds made using the newly retailed out old original backings, and very possibly old original ribbon stock--but the workmanship "style" is not rightbecause they ALWAYS want these to be TOO exotic... and then can't quite carry off the supposed story it should tell about a "real" wearer.
webr55 Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 I have to agree about all that. And now I'm really concerned about this bar, which I got from the same seller some time ago:
webr55 Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) Same style, isn't it? Especially the back: Edited March 11, 2006 by webr55
Guest Rick Research Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 I'd be worried too-- that is waaaaay too many different German states for a mere no long service NCO to have miraculously received.Have you blacklighted the ribbons?Are we now dealing with original backings AND original ribbon stock being mixed in a "Super Fake" generation that can ONLY be detected by its Hollywood excesses and lack of normal backings?So far, the new "Ohio-style" mass producer of these seems seriously limited in the DEVICES available to him for monkey business.Too many ribbons and not enough of the "usual" devices may be this one's trademark.To you the "honour" of naming this particular type of fake from where you got yours.We've got OhioSwedenHesseParts Fraudmeisterswhere'd THESE come from?
webr55 Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 1) The ribbons do not glow. They must be old stock. 2) The construction is not easily detectable as fake. And the faker must know something about ribbon combinations, having both Finnish medals together in the correct way.3) These things come from a seller in VIENNA. They are apparently not sold in masses, MAYBE the seller gets them from somewhere else and doesn't know they're fakes.
Guest Rick Research Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 "MAYBE the seller gets them from somewhere else and doesn't know they're fakes."Ho ho ho ha ha ha like nobody's every used THAT story before!!!!! Well, we're on to the Viennese Sausage Maker NOW.
HeikoGrusdat Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 I would say they are fakes too....And I want you to remember the latest full size medal bar fakes from austria.... maybe there is a new Ohio born...
Stogieman Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 I have a large plastic bag full of these. Same stitching and all original, old stock ribbons. A few had white thread and the white glowed like crazy. I'm going to dump them as fakes. Mine came from Germany about 18 months ago.
webr55 Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 I have a large plastic bag full of these. Same stitching and all original, old stock ribbons. A few had white thread and the white glowed like crazy. I'm going to dump them as fakes. Mine came from Germany about 18 months ago.Hey, before you dump them, could you post one or two?
Stogieman Posted March 20, 2006 Author Posted March 20, 2006 Our boy has branched out! Check this monstrosity out!!!!!
Stogieman Posted March 20, 2006 Author Posted March 20, 2006 And by request......... the lot I have on eBay right now. Selling as fakes, up to a whopping $1.04 for the lot! Evil eBayites! Not too worried about them being resold as real........ check the next post.
Stogieman Posted March 20, 2006 Author Posted March 20, 2006 Don't recognize that stitch patter being similar to the earlier one?Perhaps this will help
Guest Rick Research Posted March 20, 2006 Posted March 20, 2006 VERY nice for nocturnal joggers! You ARE a True Humanitarian!!!
Stogieman Posted March 21, 2006 Author Posted March 21, 2006 More gouvna........ posted as sold on a crappy US dealer's site. Ugh!
Stogieman Posted March 21, 2006 Author Posted March 21, 2006 Apart from the ugly eagles and triple-crown on the Anschluss medals........ turn this puppy over and we find:
webr55 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Don't recognize that stitch patter being similar to the earlier one?Perhaps this will help Mine (post 177-178) is slightly different. Construction looks the same, but nothing glows, neither front nor back threads.
webr55 Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 I'm not sure about this one. It is currently on ebay, and also comes from Austria. Looks like the other Vienna sausages, doesn't it?
Guest Rick Research Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Oooo... a 1939 EK2 with Xs. Oooooooooooooooooooooo.
Guest Rick Research Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 The rotten fruit doesn't fall far from the tree... same old same old SAME old.This is the scan which started this Regular Feature, post #1:[attachmentid=33598]Same seller, same Frankenstein wrongwrongwrongWRONG crap on offer TODAY:[attachmentid=33599]Yes folks, it's Hesse On The Ohio once again.
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